Re: Apple X11 Beta 3
Re: Apple X11 Beta 3
- Subject: Re: Apple X11 Beta 3
- From: Phillip Pi <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:27:07 -0800 (PST)
When did Apple say X11 final version is only for Panther? I was expecting
to be released for both Jaguar and Panther.
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On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Scott Thompson wrote:
> On Nov 7, 2003, at 10:24 PM, Paul Day wrote:
>
> > It seems to me like Apple are pushing people a little too hard to
> > upgrade
> > too quickly. Massive enterprise-wide upgrades don't happen over-night
> > Apple... I personally never use .0 release software any more (unless
> > it's
> > the final 1.0 release after a bunch of stable betas).
>
> Apple did not officially release any X11 software for Jaguar. Apple
> did make some BETA software available to users. This was a plea by
> Apple for folks to help them make sure that, when they did release some
> software, it would work as well as it possibly could.
>
> Anyone running that beta software took a risk. It's a testament to the
> XFree86 community and the Apple engineers, that the BETA software
> worked as well as it did. If that beta software just happened to work
> for your needs then you were very fortunate!
>
> X11 for Mac OS X had a successful beta program. Along the way Apple
> learned where the problems were and made improvements to both the OS
> and the X11 software to improve both.
>
> When the software was ready they took down the beta software... just
> like every other software beta program in the universe. Why is that so
> surprising for everyone?
>
> The improvements made to both the OS and X11.app strengthened the
> symbiotic relationship between the two. As a result when apple finally
> did RELEASE the software... the applications contains dependencies on
> the changes to the OS. As a result, if you want to run X11 on the Mac
> OS, (using the officially released software from Apple) then you will
> have to adopt Panther.
>
> To suggest that Apple should have put in more work to support X11.app
> on Jaguar is ludicrous. Why not suggest that they put in the effort to
> make the X11 software work with Mac OS 9.2.2 or System 6 for that
> matter?
>
> This is a normal software development cycle, not some manipulistic plot
> to force people to upgrade to Panther. I'm surprised that so many
> people were caught off guard by it.
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