Re: Autoraise
Re: Autoraise
- Subject: Re: Autoraise
- From: Kurt Bigler <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:23:59 -0800
on 11/15/03 1:57 PM, Scott Thompson <email@hidden> wrote:
> On Nov 14, 2003, at 10:09 PM, Kurt Bigler wrote:
>
>> on 11/14/03 12:43 PM, Scott Buchanan <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Does anyone here know if the autoraise behavior of the Apple window
>>> server can be changed. I need to have one window remain on top while
>>> making selection in the other window. So I would only like the window
>>> to raise if I click the border, like some other servers. It there a
>>> 'default' I can set. BTW is there a listing of the defaults that can
>>> be set?
>>
>> Apple has never provided an option to *not* bring a window forward
>> when it
>> is clicked in. It was apparently a design goal to avoid the additional
>> complexity that allowing that behavior would cause the user. This is
>> part
>> of the "Mac is simple" single-button-mouse mentality.
>>
>> The only option there has ever been is whether a click that brings an
>> application or a window forward (2 separate criteria, application vs
>> window)
>> also causes action within the window, also known sometimes as "click
>> thru".
>> But this is only controllable at the application programming level,
>> not as a
>> user option.
>
> This is not strictly true. Under Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X, if you command
> click on the drag region for a window you can drag it around without
> having it come to the front first.
>
> Scott
Good point. However the original question was about interacting with an
applications that is not the frontmost. Command-drag under OS 9
unfortunately (and painfully) never allowed command-dragging title bars of
the background windows without bringing the application forward. Once the
application came forward the dragged window would remain behind (if it
already was) in that application, but the application would unfortunately
not remain behind.
I don't have OS X booted to try this on but it seems like OS X has *almost*
"forgotten" about application window layers so I'll bet what you are
suggesting does work on OS X though it never did on OS 9.
-Kurt
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