Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up
Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up
- Subject: Re: X11 in Leopard: xterm on start-up
- From: Mick Mueck <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:53:53 -0700
On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:22 PM, Ben Byer wrote:
On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Rich Cook wrote:
On Oct 28, 2007, at 3:27 PM, Ben Byer wrote:
Noted. If you want to make sure this is officially recognized,
please file a bug a bugreporter.apple.com. You will get a note
back saying this is a duplicate of a known issue, but your vote
will be counted.
sorry, but I have to have a little rant:
And from there, in my experience, it goes into a black hole, where
nobody knows if anyone is working on it, whether any progress is
made, or when it will get fixed, or if it even does get fixed.
This is one of my big gripes with Apple. I file a bug and have no
way short of pestering individuals in Apple how it is going. Can
you guys just track bugs like normal people? Sheesh. Microsoft is
not going to steal X11 from you. There is just the blank web
interface and a "Thank you, your bug is very important to us"
attitude coming from the whole system. It feels horrible and I
don't even report bugs any more. You say you read them, but how
would I know if you weren't?
Don't worry, you're not alone in being frustrated with the system
currently available. Unfortunately, the mechanics of Radar are
something I don't have much influence over.
This was one of the main reasons to switch to the X.org
distribution. Ideally, you would also have the option of submitting
bug reports at bugs.freedesktop.org, where we could all publicly
track issues, people could submit patches, etc. Once fixes were
made, *then* they could disappear into the black hole, er, Radar --
but at least the fixes would also be publicly available.
Of course, to make this work, we have to actually do development on
that codebase. Right now, we're a bit behind the rest of X.org --
we're working on a version of X11R7.2 (xorg-server-1.2) while
they're working on xorg-server-1.4. I'm trying.
Just to quote myself from an earlier email:
With all those BILLIONS in the bank, Apple can afford to give X11 a
little more respect...
While we're all thrilled to see "the man" himself responding to this
thread, I get the impression the team must be pretty small. Can you
please provide us with a name or something where we can send in a
petition to get you more help!
Certainly several of these X11 bugs were reported during the Leopard
beta test phase - and not right near the end either.
I've never seen this list so active...
Mick.
<EOR> (End Of Rant)
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Ben Byer
CoreOS / BSD Technology Group, XDarwin maintainer
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