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RE: VO interaction with lists
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RE: VO interaction with lists

  • Subject: RE: VO interaction with lists
  • From: Gregory Hughes <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:08:15 -0700
I am not sure offhand why you are seeing an infinite loop of requests, it is possible that you have a palindrome error in your accessibility tree.

However, you should also consider implementing this method to improve performance rather than constantly returning the entire array:
https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/ApplicationKit/Protocols/NSAccessibility_Protocol/Reference/Reference.html#//apple_ref/occ/instm/NSObject/accessibilityArrayAttributeValues:index:maxCount:

This may also help you hunt down a palindrome error.

-G


On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:00 PM, email@hidden wrote:
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:01:10 -0500
> From: Pete Brunet <email@hidden>
> To: Accessibility-Dev Accessibility-Dev Mail
> 	<email@hidden>
> Subject: VO interaction with lists
> Message-ID: <email@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I'm adding support for NSAccessibility to JavaFX.  We have it working
> for button, radiobutton, and checkbox and I'm now working on a simple
> list.  I have a test case with a list of 20 cells each containing simple
> text.  A log of the calls from VO are listed below.  When I run the test
> case I have to stop it after a while because I'm not sure it will ever
> finish.  Below is a log of the calls from VO.  Some questions:
>
> - Why does VO ask for the same info over and over, especially for time
> consuming operations like the children.
> - What if the list is huge?  VO isn't asking for the visible children,
> but for all the children.  (Fortunately, at this early point we only
> have the visible children in our accessibility tree.)
> - Why doesn't VO ever ask for the child of the cell?
> - Why does VO never seem to get far enough along to actually speak the
> first list item?
>
> Thanks, Pete
>
> There might be a little misinformation in the following.  It was a lot
> of data to wade though, but it should be accurate enough to see the issues.
>
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36190 returning: AXList
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36190 returning: AXList
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36190 returning: AXList
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXTitle self=0x7fe803d36190 returning: nil
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning
>  0x7fe803d1ca20 0x7fe803d36cd0 0x7fe803d36d00 0x7fe803d36d30 0x7fe803d36d60
>  0x7fe803d36d90 0x7fe803d36dc0 0x7fe803d36df0 0x7fe803d36e20 0x7fe803a4f8e0
>  0x7fe803a44360 0x7fe803a0bc30 0x7fe803a44640 0x7fe803a1b2a0 0x7fe803d36e60
>  0x7fe803d36e90 0x7fe803d36ec0 0x7fe803d36ef0 0x7fe803d36f20 0x7fe803e0e260
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36d00 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> third child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> ditto through all 20 children
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning AXCell  // role of first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning AXCell  // role of second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36d00 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> third child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36d00 returning AXCell  // role of third child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36d30 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> forth child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36d30 returning AXCell  // role of forth child
> ditto for all 20 children
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning AXCell  // role of first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning AXCell  // role of first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXTitle self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning Row 1  // title of first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning AXCell  // role of second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36d00 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> third child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning AXCell  // role of second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXTitle self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning Row 2  // title of second child
> same as above through row 20
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803e0e260 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of last
> child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803e0e260 returning AXCell  // role of last child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803e0e260 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of last
> child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803e0e260 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of last
> child
> XParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> XParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803e0e260 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of last
> child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803e0e260 returning AXCell  // role of last child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803e0e260 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of last
> child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXTitle self=0x7fe803e0e260 returning nil  // title of last child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning AXCell  // role of first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRoleDescription self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning cell  // role
> description of first child
> same through 20 role descriptions
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36190 returning: AXList
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36190 returning: AXList
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36190 returning: AXList
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXTitle self=0x7fe803d36190 returning: nil  // title of list
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36d00 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> third child
> ditto through 20 children
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803e0e260 returning AXCell  // role of last child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803e0e260 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of last
> child
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRoleDescription self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning cell  // role
> description of first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36190 returning: AXList
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36190 returning: AXList
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36190 returning: AXList
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXTitle self=0x7fe803d36190 returning: nil
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36d00 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> third child
> ditto through 20 children
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXTitle self=0x7fe803d36190 returning: nil  // title of list
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning AXCell  // role of first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning AXCell  // role of second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36d00 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> third child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36d00 returning AXCell  // role of third child
> ditto through 20 children
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning AXCell  // role of first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning AXCell  // role of first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXTitle self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning Row 1  // title of first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d1ca20 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> first child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning AXCell  // role of second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> XParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXRole self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning AXCell  // role of second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning 0x7fe803d36190  // parent of
> second child
> AXParent self=0x7fe803d36190 returning 0x7fe803d35b70
> AXChildren self=0x7fe803d36190 returning as above
> AXTitle self=0x7fe803d36cd0 returning Row 2  // title of second child
> ditto through 20 children
> stopped the app somewhere in that loop; running too long
>
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