Re: Eliminating "1 row added" in apps, like 10.11 Mail does
Re: Eliminating "1 row added" in apps, like 10.11 Mail does
- Subject: Re: Eliminating "1 row added" in apps, like 10.11 Mail does
- From: Alex Hall <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 12:45:50 -0500
> On Nov 23, 2015, at 12:10 PM, Drake, Ted <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> That would be a question for the group in general. The list is monitored
> by Apple engineers and they may be able to tell you what mail is doing
> differently.
Sorry, I didn't realize it had gone off-list. This should go to the whole group.
> Ted
>
>
> On 11/23/15, 9:03 AM, "Alex Hall" <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Drake, Ted <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alex
>>>
>>> Adding a screen change notification is something you would program for
>>> content that changes dynamically. It¹s an API that says, this section
>>> changed, alert the user. So look to see if this was added to your code.
>>> If
>>> so, you could comment it out and test again.
>>>
>>> https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/UIKit/Reference/UIK
>>> it
>>>
>>> FunctionReference/index.html#//apple_ref/c/func/UIAccessibilityPostNotifi
>>> ca
>>> ion
>>
>> Thanks, I'm wondering if tables do this automatically? It's nowhere in my
>> code, but I do use a standard NSTable. Perhaps Apple has suppressed this
>> in Mail somehow? If it is built in, can it be disabled in my
>> code--stopped from firing when the table changes?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/20/15, 10:13 PM, "Alex Hall" <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:28 PM, Drake, Ted <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if this explains the situation, but there are times when
>>>>> engineers add to the audio output thinking it will be helpful. It
>>>>> takes
>>>>> feedback from users to understand when something looks good in theory,
>>>>> but is distracting or annoying in reality.
>>>> Definitely. Users, at least many I know, have been asking for this
>>>> since,
>>>> well, 10.6 at least, so it¹s great to see it finally happen. I just
>>>> wish
>>>> I knew exactly how they did it so I could bring it to my own app.
>>>>>
>>>>> It could be they simply removed a screen change notification that was
>>>>> meant to let people know when the table changed.
>>>> I know you might not know this, but is this a public API somewhere? The
>>>> app I had in mind suddenly, inexplicably, compiled and ran for me, so I
>>>> can finally start working on it again and I¹m re-visiting this topic to
>>>> see about eliminating the notification. There¹s nothing worse than
>>>> listening to spoken text, getting 75% through it, then having it cut
>>>> off
>>>> by the dreaded ³1 row added² announcement. You then have to start
>>>> listening all over again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ted
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 7:07 AM, Alex Hall <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>> In El Capitan, some wonderful coder has gone ahead and stopped
>>>>>> VoiceOver from saying "1 row added" in Mail every time a new message
>>>>>> arrives. As a VO user, I can't tell you how nice this is! What I'm
>>>>>> wondering is if this is a new thing developers can take advantage of?
>>>>>> Some trait or property to set on the table view that will silence the
>>>>>> "1 row added" notification? Or is this internal to Mail only? If it's
>>>>>> the latter, consider this a plea to make it public! :) Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>> Alex Hall
>>>>>> email@hidden
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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