Apple

On Oct 1, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Darin Adler <email@hidden> wrote:

On Oct 1, 2015, at 4:10 PM, Frédéric WANG <email@hidden> wrote:

Hi,

When Safari has finished loading a page, VoiceOver plays an ascending
three tone sound effect, selects the web document and starts reading the
page. I'm trying to reproduce this effect on Firefox for Mac (see
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718637).

There is an old message on Apple mailing list indicating that the
application listening the notification must actually play the sound.
However, that does not seem to reply to the question since Gecko is the
sender of the notification, not the receiver:
http://prod.lists.apple.com/archives/accessibility-dev/2012/Apr/msg00007.html

So instead I'm asking on this mailing list, since Gecko must probably
behave the same as WebKit. Reading WebKit source code, I found various
potential candidate notifications to send to VoiceOver:

@"AXLoadComplete"
@"AXLayoutComplete"
NSAccessibilityFocusedUIElementChangedNotification

I tried making Gecko call NSAccessibilityPostNotification with these
three events when the page is loaded and rendered but that does not seem
to help. The best I obtained is that the focus is now put on the web
document once it is loaded.

Any ideas about how WebKit accessibility code works here?

WebKit does not play a page loaded sound. WebKit does not post a notification that directly causes VoiceOver to play a page loaded sound. If WebKit did, then you’d presumably hear that sound whenever you open message in Mail; Mail uses WebKit to load the message content. Likely the same would happen in other applications that use WebKit.

I think the original answer from the Apple mailing list is possibly correct, although I don’t know who Travis Siegel is and the comment about the accessibility callback seems incorrect. It’s unlikely that listening for an accessibility notification sent by WebKit is involved in Safari’s implementation. It’s easy for an app using WebKit to know when the page is loaded, and no reason for it to make use of an accessibility notification to implement something like this.

Since this mailing list is about development of WebKit, I don’t think it’s likely you’ll find someone here who is an expert on exactly how the Safari app works with VoiceOver. It’s possible that some person meeting that description reads this list, but this list is supposed to be for discussing the development of WebKit, not general Apple technical support questions, even ones related to writing web browsers.

I suggest normal Apple developer support channels.

— Darin
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