Re: Apply Entourage Rules
Re: Apply Entourage Rules
- Subject: Re: Apply Entourage Rules
- From: Paul Berkowitz <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:12:51 -0800
On 11/20/00 7:21 PM, "email@hidden" <email@hidden> wrote:
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On 00/11/20 7:47 PM Mountain Time, email@hidden via
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email@hidden, said:
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> You can't apply Rules in Entourage's AppleScript. They're not scriptable
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> that way. But you can replicate any Rule by script if you want to. Give a
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> few examples, and I can help you script the same thing.
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Well, I'd rather not have to replicate all the rules and mailing list
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managers I've built into Entourage.
Fair enough. But you can't script "Apply All Rules".
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I'm just trying to complete the last leg of a 'Move to Entourage' script
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from Claris Emailer, which is the only email application (besides AOL
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software) that can POP AOL accounts. I've got all the AOL email coming
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over nicely, keeping track of attachments, providing links to same,
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original sending accounts, etc, and I have the reply function working
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properly so I can compose in Entourage and use Emailer to transmit the
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actual sent item while maintaining a copy in Entourage, but I'm stuck
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currently with all the incoming email dumping into my Entourage inbox (or
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whatever folder I tell it to use) and no way to process it further
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without intentional interaction.
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Yes, I could just generate an individual script inside of Emailer with a
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designated 'move to folder xxx' target for every type of incoming mail,
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but I really wanted to take advantage of the junk mail filtering and
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other filing features via Entourage's built in rules and tools, plus I am
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using Entorage now to trigger automated contact harvesting, replies, and
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interaction with other hardware using X-10 devices.
The Junk Mail Filter will work without your having to tell it to. But it
won't move the Junk Mail, of course, by itself.
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All I need now is a simple command that will apply all the rules and
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filters to the freshly-generated "incoming" mail from AOL, rather then
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being forced to select it all, then choose 'Message>Apply>All Rules' by
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hand, and I'll be a happy guy.
Can't. But see below.
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I'd also rather not use Frontier or QuicKeys, if avoidable.
OneClick does the job well. And it does about 1000 other things too. I
recommend it strongly. There's a special on now for $39, it's worth $150. At
http://www.westcodesoft.com
Unfortunately, Akua Sweets' 'puppet menu' only works on a main menu item,
not a second-level, sub-item such as {"Message", "Apply Rule", "All Rules"}.
(And in Entourage, you can't follow 'puppet menu' with any other script
command, or it won't work, BTW.)
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Does anyone know the wishlist address for MS Entourage?
Anyone? I'm the only one you wrote here! (You wrote to me privately. If you
meant to write to the list, be ware that AS-Users' default is to reply to
the sender, But with Entourage, you can override that behavior in the
Advanced tab of the Mailing List manager. You should use it.) The best way
is to join the Entourage mailing list, because several of the developers and
program managers read it:
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mailto:email@hidden>
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I could live with
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manual application a few times a day if I thought a rules hook was on the
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way in an upcoming release, and I do have the alternative of using the
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auto redirect from Emailer to a single non-AOL account to use as a back
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door to get at the filters, but I tried that, and sometimes lag time back
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to AOL and back to Internet can be too long.
You're going to have to do one of these alternatives, then.
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And, please, everyone, don't tell me to " just get a real ISP". For
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reasons I don't care to enumerate, AOL serves a very real purpose for
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members of my household and I am bound to maintain it.
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By the way, Paul, I just wanted to thank you for all your contributions
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here and elsewhere, I've learned a tremendous amount just by listening to
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your methods and opinions. You're a great benefit to this community, and
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you have my respect and admiration.
That's very kind. I'm just a sort of middling scripter, not a real expert,
however.
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I agree with you that I could just write rules in AppleScript to
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duplicate most of what's already happening with the built in rules and
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mailing list managers, but that's an awful lot of work for want of one
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hook. I am on a few dozen different how-to lists, and need to sort email
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from several accounts and lots and lots of hard to predict criteria.
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However, if I'm missing something obvious about how much easier it would
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be, please tell me.
Only if you get fed up applying all rules manually. That's a lot easier. But
if you get fed up, you could script everything into one script and run it as
the mail comes in or regularly from a schedule.
I haven't quite understood the following:
Why can't Entourage just run its Rules normally when the mail arrives from
Emailer? How do you get it over to Entourage? If you simply run a rule in
Emailer to redirect each AOL item as it comes in to your Entourage POP
account, and then have Entourage set to have all its Rules **enabled**, the
rules will all be run as the redirected item comes in, one by one. Why not
do that?
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Paul Berkowitz