Re: AppleMods/Handler standards
Re: AppleMods/Handler standards
- Subject: Re: AppleMods/Handler standards
- From: Paul Skinner <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 12:05:57 -0400
on 8/18/01 9:49 PM, Greg Strange wrote:
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> on 8/18/01 3:36 PM, Greg Back wrote:
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there are way too many different versions)
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> I'm glad to see something thrashed like this. It's fabulously well
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> written and thoroughly tested "handlers" for every possible function that
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> makes PERL what it is today. <gasp> AppleScript could really use the same
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> thing.
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> applemods looks like it's trying to provide a space for something like
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> the libraries of PERL mods that are out there. And there's that new library
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> of 110 handlers that MacScripter has made available; If you have the cash.
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> I'd love to see people post handlers and then post tweaks and then stash
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> the cream on a site for everyone to use.
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> One thing that I think it might do is arrive at some broad general
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> standards. <gasp>
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This is exactly what I am trying to do especially given the nature of OS X.
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And of course the problem right now is that there are so few handlers our
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there that coming up with even de facto standards is difficult.
Remember, standards aren't generally made by taking existing standard
practice and documenting it. Standards are made by publishing a standard.
; )
That having been said, I think that any standard that's going to be
successful should be the product of the community that will use it.
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For my part, I am trying to write one or two a month (admittedly without the
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amount of error-checking I would like to eventually see) just to get people
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writing/adding them. I would love to just add these handlers to the
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database, but I feel like this is part of the community. I don't want to
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seem like a thief or a dictator. Plus, if people want to change the
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handlers they originally posted, thy need to register so that not just
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anybody changes their stuff. Maybe I should re-approach the functionality
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(and function) of the site.
I think that anyone should be able to mod a mod. That's what makes them
robust. If only one person can change a handler then it will never be as
good as an 'open source' version of the same handler.
For this to work well, however, there needs to be some kind of review
and re-testing process before the distribution changes.
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Optimally I would like to see people setting off their scripts or handlers
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on this list with some consistency so that someone could rip them out and
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put them on a site (maybe mine) somewhat like Evolt (www.evolt.org) does
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with its web tips. Something like <applemod author="Greg Strange"
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name="fakeMod"></applemod> Would be great.
And maybe in the handlers...
set versionInformation to {version:1.0, creationDate:"Thursday, July 4, 1776
12:00:00 AM", modificationDate:"Thursday, July 4, 1776 12:00:00 AM",
authors:{{name:"Johnny Applescript", email:"email@hidden"}}}
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Just my thoughts.
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Greg Strange
While this list is a great place to kick ideas around, I'm not sure that
it's the place for a project like this. It seems like there needs to be some
structure for submitting, pulling the current distribution and submitting a
change. This list does seem like the place to post handlers and changes for
a thorough testing.
I wonder if there's any issue with the ownership of postings to this
list and a project like this? Or did that issue just quietly go away? I
don't see anything on the rules page about it.
--
information wants to be anthropomorphised
Paul Skinner