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Re: Where is the Searchable Applescript-users Archive?
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Re: Where is the Searchable Applescript-users Archive?


  • Subject: Re: Where is the Searchable Applescript-users Archive?
  • From: email@hidden (Douglas Wagner)
  • Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:52:09 -0400

Hello Mr von Rospach:

I asked off list:
Recently, someone announced we now have a searchable AS-users
archive. Can someone supply the URL?

and you responded publicly with:

Will whoever is running this please contact me? It's not approved, and I
need to make sure that it's not circumventing our attempts to protect email
addresses from the spam harvesters or violating our privacy agreements.

I really, really wish people wouldn't make these things public without
approval -- I realize it's well-meaning, but it's not necessarily legal or a
good idea.

I think your response may have been made, more or less, off the cuff. Still, it requires an answer.

1 What is it, that is not approved? The act of making public material available to the public in a conveniently searchable form, independent of Apple and so, not controlled by Apple?

2 And what "things" should we not make public, without approval? Does this mean I can have a private archive but I must not let anyone else see it? What about my wife, or your wife?

3 Apple hosts the list but the members contribute most of the material. And as far as I'm aware, there is no law in Canada, where I live, that prohibits me from archiving a public list, or extracting user names from it for any purpose I choose. Apple's approval is irrelevant. Or by "approval" do you mean cooperation, with Apple, in the interest of defeating spammers?

4 Apple maintains this archive in a form which isn't searchable. In other words, the archive is, essentially, useless. If this was not the case, then Sir, you would be able to find the reference I mentioned, rather than be forced to appeal to the list at large. If you want to discourage private archives, may I suggest you consider making the official archive searchable?

Best Wishes:
Douglas Wagner


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