Re: Where is the Searchable Applescript-users Archive?
Re: Where is the Searchable Applescript-users Archive?
- Subject: Re: Where is the Searchable Applescript-users Archive?
- From: Bill Cheeseman <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 20:39:47 -0500
on 3/5/01 6:11 PM, Chuq Von Rospach at email@hidden wrote:
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On 3/5/01 2:24 PM, "Bill Cheeseman" <email@hidden> wrote:
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> Chuq, you can only be that sure of the answer if you are NOT a copyright
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> lawyer.
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I've been involved in electronic copyright issues for 15 years now. I was on
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the committee that helped set the initial policies for the Science fiction
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writer's of america on electronic copyrights. I've talked to copyright
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lawyers on these issues more times than I can remember.
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I'm not a copyright lawyer, but for a layman, I'm not exactly a novice here.
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I was publishing an online newsletter back in 1986, and I've been dealing
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with these issues ever since.
That's cool. Then you know the answers aren't easy.
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> Bear in mind, in writing the contract, that many of us (presumably all of
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> us)
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If you want, I can just hand this off to the apple lawyers 9and we've now
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hit the point where I may have to, anyway), but you may not like what they
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decide to do.
Having spent the greater part of my life as a lawyer, I am always happy to
hear that somebody wants to get a lawyer involved. Lawyers understand both
the power and the limitations of the law, and above all its uncertainties.
Any lawyer who has a client understands that he or she is there to serve the
client's interests. Apple maintains these lists to promote, albeit
indirectly, the products to which the lists relate. I'm confident that
Apple's lawyers understand their client's interests in this regard.
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> In posting
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> a message to this list, I certainly do NOT intend to give Apple Computer a
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> copyright in what I said. If you write a contract that purports to give
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> Apple exclusive ownership of what I said, I'll stop participating.
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Um, where did I ever say exclusive? I've never used that word. I've never
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implied that word. You're making assumptions that aren't there, never were
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there, and legally can't be there.
Exclusivity is what copyright is all about. The Constitution contains
copyright and patent clauses to promote science and the arts. Copyright
encourages authors to publish by promising them exclusive control, for a
period of years, of the distribution of their works. Exclusive.
I didn't mean for my message to be taken as hostile. I just wanted to
suggest that the rules of this forum should recognize not only Apple's
needs, but also the needs of the members. I only spoke up because I sensed
that some of the messages in this thread had driven you into a little more
extreme position than you intend. I read some overstatements about the law
of copyright, and I wanted to bring the discussion back down to earth. We
certainly need rules, so that we all understand what's what. But those rules
should reflect the reasonable expectations of all of us, including Apple.
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