Re: Who are these folks?
Re: Who are these folks?
- Subject: Re: Who are these folks?
- From: Paul Berkowitz <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 17:10:35 -0700
On 9/22/01 2:24 PM, "Bob.Kalbaugh" <email@hidden> wrote:
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Can anyone enlighten me as to the relevance of Arthur and Stoney to the
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list? Are they list moms? I've received the following messages regarding my
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last post.
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From: Mailer-Daemon <email@hidden>
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Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
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Arthur Cormack (Mailbox or Conference is full.)
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From: Mailer-Daemon <email@hidden>
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Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
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Stoney Cook (Mailbox or Conference is full.)
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The mailing list forwards our messages on to all the list recipients. Don't
forget that the AS-Users list, unusually among mailing lists, replies by
default to the real sender, not to the mailing list. The sender's email
address is the Reply-To address. Those of us with Outlook Express or
Entourage can override that with the Mailing List Manager, so we forget all
about it. Maybe Eudora can do something similar if you set some special
preference. Everyone else has to remember it; that's why you often see
people replying to the list AND the sender - it's easier for them just to
click Reply All.
So these guys' server mailboxes - the space they've allotted or paid for -
on their ISP's or company's mail server is full: either they leave their
messages on the server or they're on holiday. The ISP bounces the mail back
to the sender (you personally, rather than the list), saying in effect
"Sorry, try again another day if you want, and maybe he'll have cleared out
his mailbox by then. It's full up now and this message can't be delivered."
You'll only get these if you write to the list, of course. I'm glad for once
that AS-Users works this way - otherwise the list - all of us -would get
two of these for every singe message (or digests) these guys receive.
Maybe the list mom will disconnect them, if it goes on much longer, and if
he knows about it. (This is probably the first he's heard of it, since he
hasn't been writing the list himself recently.) The two guys are not with
the same ISP, but their ISPs must use the same server software, which is
sending the identical message (and which I haven't seen before now.)
It's useful to remember that can happen. (For example, I do _not_ normally
leave mail on the server for my silcom (ISP) account which gets all my
mailing list mail, although I do for my "real" mail account at the
university where I work (and which gives me a HUGE amount of space, far more
than I'll ever need). But for certain temporary, I _am_ currently leaving
mail on the silcom server. I keep forgetting about this, and once a week or
so my mailbox fills up. Other people may get notices like that about me. All
I get is silence - until I suddenly realize I haven't received any mailing
list messages in 5 hours and they can't _all_ be down. (Most of them
actually seem to try again later, so I get everything in the end.)
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Paul Berkowitz