Re: Misc Eudora questions
Re: Misc Eudora questions
- Subject: Re: Misc Eudora questions
- From: Paul Berkowitz <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:30:09 -0700
On 8/4/02 4:56 PM, "John Delacour" <email@hidden> wrote:
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At 6:42 pm -0400 4/8/02, John C. Welch wrote:
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>> This is the application that John Delacour considers "infinitely more
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>> scriptable" than any other email application? I see.
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> You mean you can script Eudora without going insane or turning to stone?
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In Mail or Entourage, have you got a customizable toolbar from which
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you can run any script you like?
In Entourage, the toolbar is not customizable (what's that have to do with
scripting?) but, yes, you can run any script you want. It doesn't have to
refer to Entourage at all. You can script it to make coffee if you know how.
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Can you set up a personality to
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transmit mail composed in your own html rather than Microsoft's or
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Qualcomm's or Apple's.
Send Complex HTML, at
AppleScript Central <
http://www.applescriptcentral.com/>
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I could go on, but with several thousand
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configurable settings in Eudora, all scriptable, you'd get bored.
But it can't select multiple items? it can't even select multiple messages?
I have never tried to script Eudora, so I have no way of knowing how
scriptable or not it is. I know you have written many, many scripts for it,
so it's obviously much more than adequate. But you seem to be one of the
few people, John, who has ever come to terms with its apparently thorny
syntax. Since you relish all things cryptic (your recent propensity for perl
reminds me how you used to frequently savor obscure AppleEvent syntax over
OneClick's native EasyScript), I'm not surprised that you do so well with
it.
Entourage has a very clear and logical Object Model. There are certainly a
few quirks and bugs, but they're not many. The AppleScript implementer of
Entourage now is its Chief Developer. AppleScript bug reporting is
encouraged, bugs are fixed, and new features are introduced, often at the
request of scripters. As you know, the entire app is set in Unicode, as was
its precursor OE 5. Now that AppleScript's Unicode has almost caught up as
of 1.8.3 (you can now use text item delimiters in Unicode) Entourage is now
completely scriptable in Unicode as well. When I want to test Unicode, I
have to use Entourage as a sort of text editor to display results. Because
AppleScript was so far behind it, there has been until now an automatic
coercion to string, so you have to say 'as Unicode text' for Unicode. That
makes for a few awkwardnesses when dealing with properties which are
records, at least in 'whose' clauses. (Did I mention that 'whose' clauses
are implemented for every class and element? Does Eudora have that?) But
that will change soon. It has been promised that as of the next release all
text properties and classes will be in Unicode without any coercion.
AppleScript is thriving in Entourage, and continues to get better, as does
the application itself. Naturally it's prohibitively expensive if you don't
need Word or Excel. Stay with Eudora if you wish, but you just appear
foolish - which we all know you are not - when you make statements such as
Eudora being "infinitely more scriptable than all other email applications".
Have you even had a go with Entourage?
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I had a look at Mail's dictionary and apart from not being impressed,
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I couldn't work out how to do the simplest thing.
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Likewise. Its scripting seems to have been invented by people who had had
very limited exposure to AppleScript, but that appears to be changing, if
"cricket" on this list is an example (he is). It's likely to be much better
in Jaguar, but I expect still rather primitive compared to Entourage.
--
Paul Berkowitz
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