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Re: OT: Eskimo words for snow (Re: what's a "froplet"?)
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Re: OT: Eskimo words for snow (Re: what's a "froplet"?)


  • Subject: Re: OT: Eskimo words for snow (Re: what's a "froplet"?)
  • From: Philip Aker <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 05:39:16 -0700

On Sunday, August 4, 2002, at 07:35 PM, David Meieran wrote:

Re: Steven Pinker's "The Language Instinct"

I had to wonder at their literacy level with regards to music. It just seemed to me that they're describing concepts much better voiced through music, music notation, and music theories. In that light, their explanations and conceptualizing seemed rather juvenile.

for example? (the musicologists on the list will be interested)

For example their theory that memes (hope that's the correct spelling) are evolving, superseding their ancestor memes and attaining a new broader meaning, that current generations have so much more to absorb, and express things which have a deeper import than previous ones. All of this at an increasing rate so that everyone in a major urban center talks faster than the proverbial DJ from Buffalo.

That kind of notion doesn't strike me as anything different than the natural evolution of languages in the proceedings of many cultures. For thousands of years, the NeXT (sic) generation has been reactionary to those which have preceded them and proposed and acted upon the "new" thing. Compare icons on your desktop to Egyptian hieroglyphs. How different are the notions in terms of communication? A nutshell summary of a concept in a graphic that in all likelyhood will be misunderstood by someone looking at them four thousand years later. Anything new there?

What seemed to me to be missing from their theories were ingredients common to musical thought but not unknown in other areas of human endeavor. I'll try for an analogy with the concept of a fundamental and resultant harmonics as applied to thought processes.

If one sings a tone for any length of time, such that resonances manifest themselves, a portion of the natural overtone series can be realized. Once that happens, it's only a matter of practice and development to extend the range and number of nodes able to be sung. Maybe in yoga terminology called opening up a few chakhras. In the process, some laws of music start to make themselves apparent. The Law of Octaves for instance or the fact that the twelfth seems highly related to the fundamental. By using only those two items, scales can be derived. When that occurs, so also occurs the audible fact that a natural twelfth throws a spanner into the works by being a tad off for equal temperment. Hence we learn to inflect the nodes so that it becomes possible to think in terms of keys, key modulation and beyond into atonalism.

The important word in the above paragraph is "inflect". In order to consciously deal with the above with respect to equal temperment, it's implicit that a musician be able to encounter at least 12 "viewpoints" of the same idea in relationship to some fundamental. When this is achieved, the kinds of analytical methods I heard on that broadcast appear trapped in linearity with little or no component/complement of circular logic. In addition to which, I gotta say that none of them had any resonance in their voices to speak of and for folks who seem to be dealing a lot with what the spoken word conveys, didn't have a heck of a lot of nuance in the pitch variance of their voices.



Philip Aker
http://www.aker.ca

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