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Re: Scripting Additions: Embracing the Horror of Unix
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Re: Scripting Additions: Embracing the Horror of Unix


  • Subject: Re: Scripting Additions: Embracing the Horror of Unix
  • From: Shane Stanley <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:36:47 +1100

On 30/1/02 5:19 PM +1000, garbanzito, email@hidden, wrote:

> i disagree. they are frustrating, perhaps, but you have to
> start somewhere.

I think that's my point -- a scripter shouldn't have to start unix anywhere.

> picking apart examples with the help of the
> man pages can be extremely useful for someone with no unix
> background. that's how i learned much of it.

You're a far better man than me. I just spent 40 minutes on two commands,
and I found so many references to things I didn't understand -- and couldn't
find the things I did understand -- that I just gave up. Again. That's when
I wrote my reply.
>
> anyway, my point was there is a convenient and comprehensive
> reference capability for unix commands, which certainly
> rivals the scripting dictionaries. a novice AppleScripter
> might find the scripting dictionaries a bit frustrating too,
> no?

Yes. But the commands I was looking at were what people suggesting be used
for copyFile in Jon's commands. Look in the dictionary at copyFile and tell
me what's missing.
>
> if your point is you don't _want_ to learn unix, i won't
> begrudge that if you don't begrudge my use of unix.

It's not that I don't want to, so much as I object to the notion that I
might have to to write AppleScript scripts, because every time I want to do
something, someone will tell me to use "do shell script...".

I certainly don't begrudge you or anyone else using having access to unix,
and especially from AS. I think that's a Good Thing. But I fear it becoming
a bit like the early days of Macs, when DOS ports didn't bother with proper
GUIs because you could always just type the commands.

--
Shane Stanley, email@hidden


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