Re: How do digest readers manage to participate?
Re: How do digest readers manage to participate?
- Subject: Re: How do digest readers manage to participate?
- From: Hylton Boothroyd <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:30:27 +0100
On 19/07/2002, I raised the problem of participating in discussion
threads as a reader of digests using Outlook Express, and asked
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has anyone got useful scripts/shortcuts for digest readers,
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- for the applescript-users list in particular,
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- for Apple and non-Apple digests in general?
I found the replies most helpful, particularly because of the weight of
experience and expertise on which they were based.
Nigel Garvey, wrote that he uses an unpublished script of his own devising
written for Claris Emailer, which
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dates from those happy days when the AS Users and MACSCRPT digests had the
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same message format
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Date:
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From:
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Subject:
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Message text
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...
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When the AS Users digest became the mess it currently is, I wrote another
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script which automatically polices it up as it arrives, which makes it easier
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to read and allows my reply script still to work with both list digests.
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You select the message to which you wish to reply, from "Date:" down and
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including as you want to quote, and choose the script from Emailer's script
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menu. A dialog asks if you want to reply to the list, the sender, or to both.
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A new message is then started, appropriately titled and addressed, with an
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attribution line, and with the selected body text quoted. (The set-up
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information is gleaned from the selected headers and from the Reply-To address
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of the digest itself.) You then snip any of the quoted text you don't need and
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write your reply.
I think, given Nigel's enviable grasp of AppleScript, that that sets the
bounds to what will make practical sense, and in particular the decisions
- to manually select the header and text of the message to be replied to;
- to limit one's aims to a small group of consistently formatted digests.
From the many scripts that Paul Berkowitz and others wrote for Outlook
Express in OS 9's heyday, it will I think be possible to glean all one needs
for topping and tailing Nigel's methods for Outlook Express.
Paul himself, the doyen of Outlook express scripters in the heyday of OS 9,
simply recommended
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Register the mailing list in OE's Mailing List manager (Tools menu) and tell
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it (on the Advanced Page) to burst digests
which then happens as they arrive. The Advanced Page also offers the choice
of deleting or retaining the digests as they pass through the arrival
process.
For a questioner who had in mind selective bursting, Paul noted that
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there are also scripts at
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AppleScript Central
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<http://www.applescriptcentral.com/>
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that will let you do it an a message-by-message basis, I think, as you appear
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to prefer to do.
My attempts to use those on digests in general several months ago weren't
happy. I finished with many orphaned fragments. Almost certainly the
problems came from what Nigel noted: the mess of varied message header
details that have to be parsed.
JollyRoger reported that
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when you open a digest message in Entourage, it shows each message in the
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digest as an attachment. To reply to a certain message, you can just
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double-click the attachment and hit Reply.
That would certainly be a reason for moving to it. In Outlook Express, such
an option is only available for digests which are explicitly transmitted
with individual messages as attachments: for example, the MacPerl digest.
With thanks to you all for those insights.
--
Hylton
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