Re: What sort of monopoly is MS supposed to have in Macintosh apps?
Re: What sort of monopoly is MS supposed to have in Macintosh apps?
- Subject: Re: What sort of monopoly is MS supposed to have in Macintosh apps?
- From: David Groover <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 07:17:53 -0500
Thus spake email@hidden:
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And as far as email clients and PIMs for the Mac go (the original topic
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here, lest we forget) there are simply loads of them, too many for me even
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to remember. Eudora, Mail, Mailsmith, Mulberry, Now Contact, Palm Desktop,
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etc., etc. This is hardly a "monopoly" for MS. And the major portion of
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their email share on the Mac, Outlook Express, brings them no direct income
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- it is (or was) just a loss leader, like IE (also not a monopoly what with
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Netscape, OmniWeb, Opera and god knows what else).
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Paul Berkowitz
Oh Pleeeeeze. Lets me clear. First of all, Microsoft makes some really
good products. Excel for one is far superior to Lotus 123.
I do not see a plethora of Mac email clients and PIMS. On the contrary,
aside from the ones that you have to be in the know to know about (I
never heard of Mailsmith of Mulberry before reading lists), what can the
average Mac consumer get at his or her friendly (Mac unfriendly) computer
software retailer? When I bought my first Mac, a llsi, I got it at Comp
USA, also picked up a copy of ACT! for my PIM, and FairWitness for my
ideas. (FW may have come from a catalog store). Since then I have tried
or demoed almost every PIM out there.
But today what is left standing in Mac PIMS that most know about? ACT!
went PC only. Now is still around, and there's that one in Utah, forget
the name. Ascend (Franklin Planner) dropped the Mac version. FileMaker
has a bunch of apps, if you want to stay with FileMaker. Palm's desktop
is still good but is essentially untouched since it was owned by Claris
(There's a new beta version which still doesn't help system 8.6 users -
the current version still gives you two choices to write a letter in the
standard pull down menus, MacWrite and Claris, yet another reason I am
learning AS.)
And Microsoft doesn't do ANYTHING as a loss leader. The more of their
apps that you have under your nose, the sooner you realize how their way
works better with the other stuff they have and you learn to stop
thinking different, and just concentrate on getting work done. Which to
my way of thinking isn't always a bad thing.
The same is true of email clients. I am using Emailer because it's still
such a good product. But Emailer has long been dead. I also have tried
Eudora and OE. But, that's about it. Again, if you are in the know, you
know of others. But most consumers have never heard of the rest.
I have taken to learning Panorama to build my own PIM and to finally get
everything I have wanted. I am also learning the use of AS and others,
like Marionette, to use Pan to function as my email client. After they
release their current update to the TCP/IP procedures I will switch over
to Pan full time.
But this "roll your own" is the only realistic solution I have seen as a
die hard Mac fan. Either you are treated as a "lite" (brainless)
consumer, or a niche market techie, but the business world of PIM's and
Email organizers? Very poor IMHO. That's Microsoft's purview. Unless you
think monopoly is a better word?
Dave Groover
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