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  • Subject: Re: top <repeat 100 times \r rant \r end repeat>
  • From: Roger Howard <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:34:46 -0700

And ls /usr/bin reminds me again of what I said about everything being
dumped in a heap for the user to sort out in their own mind. Why not
include information in each that allows them to be viewed by "topic" [wrong
word, but can't think of a better one] - filesystem operations, text
munging, etc. - instead of purely alphabetical? Have I missed something, or
is the machine really that unhelpful? Tell me this stuff _couldn't_ be made
easier...

It could - it would certainly be non-standard additions to Unix, but then everything on Unix starts that way! But it would go a long way towards improving the overall accessibility to Unix for novices. This could be handled by Apple in a number of ways - an extension to "ls" would be possible (there are already many possible builds) so, for instance, ls -d (pardon the pun) might add a description column from an Apple-specified datafile; a new "lse" (enhanced) tool maybe; and I like the idea of a smarter Terminal. All of these things could be possible without breaking the Unix layer for backwards compatibility. These are pretty big integration issues though, and certainly won't happen without a lot of deliberation.

FWIW - I'm quite comfortable with the shell, have used Unix for almost 15 years now. I can get around, and figure out just about anything I want to do. However, I can see some more room for improvement - not to disparage Apple for what they've done (build the first truly friend Unix-based OS), but to encourage them to do more in this area. The Terminal could do better with tracking user context, being smart with tool output, etc; the Finder could integrate better with the shell (after all, they are essentially peers).

Anyway, I'm drifting into fantasyland. I just wanted to point out that all of these things are doable, without fear of breaking compatibility with the common Unix platform. I would, however, stress that changes to the unix layer which would impact our ability to run common tools would be foolish at best, so these changes must happen at a layer above, much as the rest of OSX already does.

Cheers,

roger howard
senior digital media specialist the j. paul getty museum
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