Re: Path to ... as string [was Re: Complete newbie]
Re: Path to ... as string [was Re: Complete newbie]
- Subject: Re: Path to ... as string [was Re: Complete newbie]
- From: Federico <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 21:05:47 +0200
Sabato, 26 apr 2003, alle 16:13 Europe/Rome, Paul Berkowitz ha scritto:
No, I don't think that proves anything. That means I'll have a US
version of
OS 10.2.5, with Italian or Chinese set as first preferred language.
That's
not necessarily the same as an Italian or Chinese or "International"
version
of the OS with the same language set as first preferred language.
Nope, you'll just have a regular OS 10.2.5 as I have, with a certain
preferred language, and if it's one of these (see "Languages included"):
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107379
You'll see translated folder names.
So I guess the question now is - is it the same, or different? Are
there no
longer different localized versions of the OS, just different preferred
languages?
It think this is the case: there is only one OS whose system folders
always have an english name (/System is always /System, /Library is
always /Library, an user's documents folder is always 'Documents' on
its home folder).
Then these folder's names are tranlated according to user's preference
when he browses his disks.
Also, the language for the system itself (e.g.: the one used for
startup messages or the login window) is set when installing the
system, and the language for any new users is the one the admin is
using when he creates them, so, there is nothing that makes my system
more italian or even chinese than yours :)
The box, maybe, is different. That will have to wait until monday, it's
saturday night and I don't want to go to my office :)
There, I have some non-geek boxes where I can test.
The only difference that there might be between versions of Jaguar
bought on different areas of the globe is that some might have a
different set of localizations and fonts on the installation CDs (to
keep the number of CDs on the distribution to a minimum), but the base
system is still "english-based". I read this on a PDF about
multilingual and unicode support on OS X, probably linked in a comment
at macosxhints.com. I can't seem to find it now, so I can't quote it or
post its URL.
Ah, there you are. I suspect that all the people who have _not_
removed all
'.localized' files (which would probably be about 99.4% of users, or
higher)
do not get the English "Users:" and "Documents:" returned as the names
of
those folders.
If they still have the '.localized' file on their folders, they'll see
translated names when using the Finder, and they'll get english names
when using Terminal.app or AppleScript (with some exception with the
Finder), as happened to me this morning when I added a '.localized'
file to my Documents folder.
Also, since I do not usually touch stuff outside my home folder,
.localized files on /System, /Library, /Applications and /Users are
still there from my first install, so when I ask for "path to system
folder" I get 'alias "Bif:System:"', and not 'alias "Bif:Sistema:"',
although "Sistema" is the name I see with the Finder.
And I can't use the localized name (e.g.: alias "Bif:Sistema:" because
there ain't no folder with that name on my startup disk).
With the Finder, things are a bit different, because I can ask it to do
something on a folder using its localized name (but only if that folder
has a .localized file in it).
Events that returns folders always use the original, not translated
name, with the exception of 'displayed name':
name of folder "Bif:System:"
-- "System"
name of folder "Bif:Sistema:"
-- "System"
displayed name of folder "Bif:System:"
-- "Sistema"
displayed name of folder "Bif:Sistema:"
-- "Sistema"
Note that I get the same result both with my current user (the one with
only the Documents folder translated) and with a brand new user I
created to run these test, that has all the .localized files in place.
I haven't restarted my iBook, but I don't think that results will
change.
Right. (No screenshot survived the mailing list, but I'll take your
word for
it.)
Strange, I didn't attach a picture to my message, but only posted this
URL:
http://geek.iworks.it/Public/Misc/localized.jpg
--
Federico
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