Re: Faster List Checking
Re: Faster List Checking
- Subject: Re: Faster List Checking
- From: Gary Lists <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 03:08:24 -0400
On or about 5/30/03 12:58 AM, Jon Pugh wrote:
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At 10:09 AM +1000 5/30/03, Malcolm Fitzgerald wrote:
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> Everyone loves their mac and no-one is buying a new computer unless they are
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> forced to.
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I bought a new 17" PowerBook. It's *very* nice, and fast.
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> If anyone here pretends that 9 is gone they're kidding themselves.
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It's dead, Jim.
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Pushing up Daisies.
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Waiting for a train that will never come.
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<http://homepage.mac.com/stattenf/FutureOfMacOS9/iMovieTheater2.html>
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A recent survey of downloads of a popular utility program show an 84% usage of
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the most recent version of OS X and 8% of other versions of X. All versions
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of OS 9 totaled 7%. I think that says it pretty clearly.
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MacOS 9 does what it always did, and that is what it will continue to do. No
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one's stopping that. It's just that everyone who is buying new software is
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running X, so that's where the new software is being developed.
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OS 9 is NOT pining for the fjords. It's deceased.
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Jon
Well, of course all of this is hyperbolic anyway. My comments included.
Actually, the stats you provided speak loudly, and so from that point of
view, I would say that makes complete sense.
OS X is new, so everyone who wants an X version of some tool has to go
download it. Of course they would be that much higher.
On the point of "pushing up daisies", again, hyperbolic and not very
descriptive of what you mean.
There is no debate on the development of OS9. None.
There is no debate that more new applications will be developed for new
OS'es than for old OS'es.
If by "dead" you both mean those things, then fine. Hat eaten.
You certainly both know, and aren't getting to that (original) point, that
OS9 is a huge percentage of the Macintosh operating system installed base.
And, by that, to me, it is alive and well.
The installed base, nostalgia aside (which is a strong force, admittedly)
rules the aftermarket for utilities, small tool growth, support and others
kinds of "legacy" (if you will) needs.
Let us say this, then: The force and effect of OS9 is not dead, by any
argument offered here or elsewhere, that I've seen.
As for the earlier ad hominem issues of "who likes new tools" and that sort
of thing, well sure. There is always a forward advance. It creates a drag
force and pulls along the lightest things first. ;)
We all "moved along" from 6 to 7 to 8 to 9 to X and we will continue.
Do I like buying new things? Yes. Do I like gadgets and cool buttons and
Unix? Sure. But I prefer to wait until it all works well.
Do I need those things in my operating system right now, given both personal
and business investment? Given costs of change? Individually, no.
Organizationally, no.
And that issue neither of you address. The "new tools" argument and the
download rate do not speak to rates of corporate or organizational adoption
(there may be evidence saying they are adopting OSX at 10 times the rate of
adoption of 9, I don't know...but that point hasn't been made or addressed,
and my own anecdotal experience was offered already. Hard line: no X.
It's not anti-X. It's anti-$. Not only new licenses, but new machines, new
staff development and so on.)
OS 9 is not dead. Despite what Nietzsche says.
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Gary
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