Re: Option key (was Re: Sorting)
Re: Option key (was Re: Sorting)
- Subject: Re: Option key (was Re: Sorting)
- From: Paul Berkowitz <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 07:22:12 -0700
On 10/6/03 2:31 AM, "Walter Ian Kaye" <email@hidden> wrote:
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> Microsoft software in the year 2003 and as far back as 1996 or earlier never
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> refers to "alt" or "num lock" or anything like that.
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I guess you've never used MS Word. It works the same way as the
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Windows version, and thus maps pgup/pgdn/home/end to the numeric
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keypad, forcing you to use NumLock if you want to type any numbers
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there. That always drove me nuts.
I'll take your word for it on earlier versions, boo. I'm "stuck" in Word X
at the moment having just switched to a computer where I haven't even
installed Office 2001 for Classic, and probably won't since this computer
doesn't boot in OS 9, and I've lost even earlier versions. If I had to
guess, I'd even guess you were talking about pre-Word 98, since things
became a lot more Mac-like way back in Office 98. I'm quite prepared to
believe whatever you want to say about Word 6, which was the first version I
ever knew (and not well at all), where they did indeed try to make it work
it like Word Windows. That was something of a fiasco, they created the
"Macintosh Business Unit" and moved on.
In Word X, all the numbers on the number pad type numbers. There is not even
a num lock key on my keyboard so I don't know what you're talking about,
'page up' moves a page up. 'page down' moves a page down. 'end' moves to he
end of the page. 'command-end' moves to the end of the document. This being
Word, you could customize all that if you should want to, and map anything
to anything, but that's how it works "out of the box". Numbers on the
numbers pad type numbers.
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As for alt, I'm really talking about MS Windows emulation software.
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That's the only place where "alt" makes any sense at all. Mac
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programs use "option".
Yes. Word Mac is a Mac program and uses Option, as you say.
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> It's always Option/Command, etc. It's also "real Macintosh software".
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MSIE uses Command-Delete instead of Option-Delete to bypass the
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confirmation dialog. That's about as cluelessly un-Mac as you can get.
Sorry, boo. I'm not following. To bypass what sort of confirmation dialog?
If I have prefs set to require confirmation to open a secure or non-secure
page, then it's option-return, or anything else with return, that dismisses
that dialog (not option-delete) in IE 5.2, as on most Mac programs I know.
But maybe I don't which sort of dialog you mean. Anyway, IE has been
deprecated and won't be developed further. I prefer Safari myself but
sometimes still need IE when Safari can't get to a site designed for IE. I'm
not interested in espousing IE.
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And if you try to make PgUp/PgDn work the proper Macintosh way in
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Word, you cannot. Believe me, I've tried. It is *impossible* to make
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Word follow Apple's HIG. Impossible.
'page up' pages you up one page. 'page down' pages you down one page. What
do you want it to do?
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-Walter
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who uses Tex-Edit Plus for 99.9% of all his WP needs. Very scriptable, too!
Yes, I like Tex-Edit Plus as well. It's a model of scriptability, and does
most of what most people need out of a text editor. Word is a very complex
word processor that can do millions of things most of us don't need, but
many people do - control of styles and so on. Its scriptability is terrible
unless you're prepared to learn 'do Visual Basic', which is very powerful.
Stay tuned...
--
Paul Berkowitz
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