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Re: [OT] Anti-Spam solution for web pages.
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Re: [OT] Anti-Spam solution for web pages.


  • Subject: Re: [OT] Anti-Spam solution for web pages.
  • From: Deivy Petrescu <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:57:48 -0400

On Friday, Oct 17, 2003, at 04:28 US/Eastern, Walter Ian Kaye wrote:

At 08:10a -0400 10/16/2003, Deivy Petrescu didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus:

Gnarlie,
everything is a matter of choice. Besides choice or personal taste one should have more objective reasons to select one or the other.
Reasons I'd prefere something that I can actually read and not have a headache:
1. If I have to change 3 different email addresses, I'd rather use something that is easily distinguishable by sight.
1a. If I have 10 different addresses your suggestion would drive me nuts.

2. I like to script in AppleScript not perl....

Funny, it looks more as if you like to script in JavaScript. ;)

How does it go? Looks can be deceiving... :)

Problem: JavaScript does not exist in all Web browsers. You should care!

Are "forms" available in all browsers?


I took care of the problem using Perl, and wrote a form-mail script which keeps the email address completely hidden, yet allows everyone to send mail and even CC themselves. <http://www.natural-innovations.com/1/keymail?key=wik;ref=as-u>


It is good, but it assumes you have access to cgi's in your server. Not always true.

And since it's a lookup key, changing an email address means not having to go through multiple web pages -- just update the data file. :-)

No programming??? What fun is it?

> 3. The reason I feel is the real problem, all your addresses would
> start with mailto: or &#109;&#97;&#105;&#108;&#116;&#111;&#58;
> The spiders could check for such a string, or even for a <a href=" and
> end the search at a </a>.
They could, but they don't. I've had a dedicated ASCII encoded email address
on a page for 2 years now and the second I get spam to that address I'll
know they broke the code.

Assuming they find the page. ;) Don't you need a "control group" (unencoded address on the same page) for a scientific test?

But it's unlikely it will ever happen since its just too processor
intensive.

Didn't they used to say that about password cracking?

I think it is very processor intensive to get the number of email addresses they get.
As boo puts it above, everything is a matter of return. If they can not get emails via the usual way, they'll get it by decoding the ASCII code.

-boo
"Without chemicals, Monsanto would be impossible."

There is one thing I did have in mind when I posted the mail. I would like to get rid of spam. This apparently is what everyone have in common. Discussing among us to decide which is better is beyond the point. Every method works and taste makes for one's selection. We should discuss more techniques to avoid spam.

One site mentions that creating a list of bogus email addresses will cause the list that people buy to greatly decrease in values. So hep puts a page with a bunch of bogus email addresses.
To create this page with applescript is a breeze. So i can have a page with 10,000 bogus email address, if this is distributed and email are randomly created, then we would infest the web with bogus email.
Anybody knows anything about that?


Regards

Deivy Petrescu
http://www.dicas.com/
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