Re: [OT] Re: Smile and FruitMenu
Re: [OT] Re: Smile and FruitMenu
- Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Smile and FruitMenu
- From: "John C. Welch" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 18:41:23 -0600
On 12/07/2004 17:12, "Bill Cheeseman" <email@hidden> wrote:
> Paul Berkowitz was involved in my correspondence with Unsanity. He can chime
> in with his own impressions, if he wants to. Speaking for myself, I feel
> that Unsanity has gotten a bad rap, and the main reason it lives on is that
> people keep repeating what other people say.
My experience with Unsanity is the polar opposite. I asked them "Where do
you install your files? I need to know this"
"No you don't"
"I'm a network administrator, yes, I do"
"It will just confuse you"
"Never mind, I did it my self. Why do you put stuff in /System?"
"It's a bug in Panther"
"Why don't you warn me about this so in case I'm checking these things, I
don't wonder why there are strange frameworks in a directory I don't ever
back up? Perhaps in a readme?"
"That would be too confusing"
Then a little later, there was a similar correspondence where they said that
any bad interactions between their hack and an application were not their
fault, and that it was up to the Application developers to be compatible
with them.
At that point, some time with locate and ARD, and I no longer had that worry
any more. They may indeed be great if you're a developer, but even in your
case Bill...right or wrong, they were violating the memory space of your
application so that their hack could run, and you, not them, had to change
your code. You happened to be in a position where this was easy enough for
you to do. What about apps where this isn't an option? That framework allows
you to do anything that doesn't require root runlevels to any application
running on a machine. There's no safety other than the root access
protection built in, yet their position is that every application dev on the
Mac needs to anticipate every possible way that APE modules can diddle with
their running code, and deal with it, because it's never Unsanity's fault.
If the code runs correctly without APE modules touching it, and not when
they are touching it, that's Unsanity's bug, and it's astounding that they
make other people change their apps.
john
--
"I think the the old joke "What do you call a bus full of lawyers driving
over a cliff...a good start." Needs to be amended to a buss full of MacMacs.
The cluelessness of some of these people is astounding, but I guess when you
live with your head up your own ass thinking it is Steve Jobs' ass, the
bright lights of reality can be confusing."
"jkvt", YML List
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