Re: Bugs bugs, Finder bugs, yummy bugs
Re: Bugs bugs, Finder bugs, yummy bugs
- Subject: Re: Bugs bugs, Finder bugs, yummy bugs
- From: "John C. Welch" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 06:07:15 -0500
- Thread-topic: Bugs bugs, Finder bugs, yummy bugs
On 8/23/05 04:10, "Martin Orpen" <email@hidden> wrote:
>> Yet there is approximately a 0.0001% chance that *any* of these
>> bugs will ever get fixed unless they have been entered into Radar,
>> Apple's bug reporting system. Posting them to the list or griping
>> with friends does not count.
>
> I thought that this was the "AppleScript-Users" list - not
> "AppleScript-Developers".
Um...you write code, you're a dev. Or are you saying that AppleScript isn't
really programming?
>
> Bug reporting is a PITA because it takes time, patience and ADC
> membership.
Online ADC membership is free...as to the rest...you're kidding, right?
You'll work for days to find a bug, but won't take minutes to properly
report it?
>
> We gripe, we workaround and we share methods to get our scripts to
> work - that's the whole point of *this* list isn't it?
>
> If the Apple staff that look in from time to time think that the
> problems are worthy of a formal bug report (which they'll presumably
> know better than we will) then they should file them using their own
> dedicated app.
So can you! And guess what, you're a CUSTOMER! You reporting a bug carries
FAR more weight than it being reported by someone from Apple, because that
can affect sales, and sales.affect.money.
As well, if *you* find a bug, there are details and information you'll have
that someone reading a mailing list won't have because you may not put them
on the mailing list. If you file a bug, then the proper engineers get the
information. Contrary to popular belief, the core AppleScript team does NOT
do all the AppleScript for every Apple application on this list. Mail does
their own, iCal does their own, etc. While the core team, at least Chris and
Todd, DO read this list, they are, I hope, also busy with things like oh,
fixing properly reported bugs, instead of investigating every post.
My *god*...Chris (both of them, Nebel AND Espinosa (in the past)) and a few
other Apple people have said consistently, "please file a bug on that". Do
you think they're only doing that because they're LAZY??
You filing a bug gets stuff done with FAR more efficiency than just bitching
about it here does, takes a LOT less time, and helps that bug get on a list
that doesn't fade to obscurity after a few months. If it's important to
*you* don't let someone else decide your priorities. File the bug, and it
becomes important to *them* too.
>
> I would have assumed that more Apple staff would have been reading
> through the lists in April as they were full of praise, gripes and
> possible bugs relating to Tiger.
>
> Seems like an easily accessible source of rich information is being
> overlooked :(
It seems to me that if the bug's not important enough for you to file, then
it's not important enough for them to fix.
Spend days bitching about something in great detail, then bitch about the
five minutes filing the bug takes, and say it's not your job?
Okay, you get to say you did something that doesn't happen often...you
honestly shocked me. Wow. Filing bugs is not worthy of your time.
That's...wow.
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your CDs.
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