Re: Please comment my thoughts -- Need help with application for controlling Time attendance...
Re: Please comment my thoughts -- Need help with application for controlling Time attendance...
- Subject: Re: Please comment my thoughts -- Need help with application for controlling Time attendance...
- From: has <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:31:15 +0100
Bernardo Hoehl wrote:
>My accountant expects to read something like this:
>======================================
>João da Silva entrou às 07:00 e saiu às 17:00
>======================================
Hmmm... your accountant must enjoy hard work. Wouldn't you rather have the timeclock application calculate values like 'total time worked' for you? Much quicker and more reliable than doing it all by hand.
>But instead, PHAT-Clock generates this:
>======================================
>Joo 2005 from 0705 to 0705
>--------------------
>0705.083500-login.txt
>0705.083620-logout.txt -hours worked- 0:01
>0705.083627-login.txt
>0705.083633-logout.txt -hours worked- 0:00
>--------------------
>Joo time for this period 0:01
>======================================
Keeping highly detailed logs should be another of the functions of a good timeclock application - you never know when you might need that extra information. It doesn't mean you should be reading the raw log files directly, however. Have you looked to see if it includes log analysis and presentation tools allowing you to customise what gets shown and how? Even if it doesn't, you could quickly write a simple shell script or TextWrangler-based AppleScript that reads the raw data and uses regular expressions to extract and reformat the bits you're interested in exactly as you need. Heck, chances are it'll all be going into a spreadsheet anyway, so why not fully automate it? That's how these things normally operate.
>Do you think he will understand that?
Have you consulted with your accountant on automating your timekeeping? Assuming they're not a complete numpty, they've probably heard of timeclock applications before and may be able to recommend something that will make everyone happy. And even if they are a numpty, you might be able to agree on handing them a tab-delimited text file or Excel document that they can load directly into their system instead of re-keying everything themselves. If nothing else, it'd save you some money by reducing the number of hours they can bill you for. :)
>Brazilians use DDMMYYYY format, but PHAT_CLOCK completely ignores my format settings in system preferences...
Again, controlling how end-users view this data should be left to log analysis tools, not done in the raw log file.
>Special characters are not supported also.
That could be a bit more of a problem. It may be a simple lack of internationalization support in that particular application, or it may be a design 'feature' to restrict log files to a 'lowest common denominator' ASCII format. You may be able to compensate for this in log analysis tools, or you could shop around other vendors to find one that keeps its logs in something like UTF8 format, e.g. <http://www.google.com/search?q=mac+os+x+"time+clock">. As folks have said, there's no shortage of options already available.
HTH
has
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