Re: AS, wIP and 10.4.3: nothing's changed...
Re: AS, wIP and 10.4.3: nothing's changed...
- Subject: Re: AS, wIP and 10.4.3: nothing's changed...
- From: Dave Lyons <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:16:16 -0800
The portion of this that is on-topic for applescript-users is: If
there is a Tiger bug affecting you, report it in Radar at <http://
bugreport.apple.com/>. It could turn out that I'm wrong about the
chances of the particular bug below making it into a Tiger software
update, if enough reports come in.
I'll follow up with Emile off-list about Finder's "snap to grid" option.
--Dave
On Nov 2, 2005, at 11:47 AM, Emile Schwarz wrote:
Hi all,
{Dave, this is not a personal attack and I thank you for your
involvment and answer on this matter}.
Fortunately for me, I do not earn money for what I do with
AppleScript.
Unfortunately - still for me - I can't use Tiger. The below
discussion is just one case, I have some more.
Also, for unknown reason, in early september 2005, I lost a folder
contents [I was using Tiger since April 29th, 2005] and was very
upset because of that (the PowerBook 15" Alu had 13 month to buy
date). *
Even the Apple Tool (in fact not the Apple tool) wasn't able to
repair the trouble [the Apple Care tool]. :(
At last, I used this opportunity (bad opportunity) to copy the hard
disk contents to elsewhere (some DVD-RW... slow, very slow), format
it and install...
Mac OS X 10.3 and update it to 10.3.9 (with all mini-updates, now,
it is a real shame).
I use it since then.
I loose my way since I started this message. I go back to the core
of the subject: Mac OS X 10.4.3 is not rock solid (and is far from
that).
"If I knew that before buying the Tiger, I would not waste my
money"... Unfortunately, it is not possible in France to get my
money back (I already removed Mac OS X 10.4.2 from my internal hard
drive).
A REAL SHAME: a whole OS who will not be updated to give what the
previous version (10.3) was able to give.
You do not have an idea of how I am furious...
Snap to grid does not works ! [I checked on some friend who use a
TiBook and have updated his OS]
I do not liked to wrote some month ago that Tiger is the worst
Apple Operating System I ever saw since I buy my first Apple
Computer back in 1985, but this is another evidence that this is
not really an engineer bug, but a Design Intelligence decision.
As a developer, I understand that bugs are not added voluntaree by
the developer, but instead the result of some special event. Bug
are very hard to find, less hard to remove. But when the but have
been removed and not given to the users, it is not only a shame but
a real offence to all the people who use this software (Operating
System in this case).
There must be an entry in the Patriot Act against those cases.
One more time, I present my sincere apologies to the Apple
developers who work hard everyday to make Mac OS X getting better.
And to the guy who is in the dark side and decide to not include
this kind of bug removals in the OS to think twice, it is not
alright. Please, come back to the light side; come back home,
remember: "The power to do your best".
Users, think that if this bug removal is not given to us, what
other bug squash was not implemented in 10.4.3 ?[will not be
implemented in the future ?]
The poet wrote and sang: "The Times They Are A Changin'".
Unfortunately, it is not for the best :(
Regards,
Emile
PS: the given work around is good to have, but there are other
nasty things that happens and that does not have any work-arounds.
PPS: The only thing that I miss - after two month of use of Mac OS
X 10.3.9 - is ... the English Dictionary.
Doh ! BTW: why don't we have a Spanish (I do not need it but some
people in the domestic market need it) or a French (Yes, Yes,
Please Mr. Apple, give us a French dictionary) dictionary ?
email@hidden wrote:
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:50:30 -0800
From: Dave Lyons <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: AS, wIP and 10.4.3: nothing's changed...
To: Eugenio MORASSI <email@hidden>
Cc: email@hidden
Message-ID: <email@hidden>
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As usual from 10.4 till today's 10.4.3 update, Apple was (it
seems) not able to solve the problem I've already described here:
The main problem is that setting the "bounds" or "position" of a
Finder window from AppleScript doesn't make the change "stick."
This bug is fixed for a *future* version of Finder, but it is
very unlikely to be fixed in any 10.4.x version.
However, there is a way to work around the problem by changing
the script. After setting the position or bounds of the window,
change the window's toolbar visible setting, and then change it
back:
tell application "Finder"
set position of Finder window 1 to {2, 49}
set toolbar visible of Finder window 1 to not toolbar visible of
Finder window 1
set toolbar visible of Finder window 1 to not toolbar visible of
Finder window 1
end tell
The temporary change will, unfortunately, be visible to the
user...but at least it works.
In this case, there is no need for an additional Radar bug, but
in general I agree exactly with what Yvan KOENIG wrote: Always
file a Radar bug (at <http://bugreport.apple.com>, for example).
Please don't assume that just describing a problem on a mailing
list is good enough to get it fixed.
* Nothing wrong appeared until I reboot the PowerBook on that early
morning on September 8th (2005, sunny day)... the Finder was
searching... rainbow cursor, trying to open that folder.
The AppleCare tool ran during 8 hours (9:00 'till 17:00) until it
told me what happens: I can't repair one volume information block
folder entry so make a back up of your data, format the hard disk
and re-install the OS :(
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