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Re: Numeric Overflow?
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Re: Numeric Overflow?


  • Subject: Re: Numeric Overflow?
  • From: Roy Whelden <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:02:25 -0700

What about the infinitesimals of non-standard analysis, where ⦾ is an infinitesimal number when ⦾>0 and yet ⦾ < r for every positive real number? Are they unreasonable numbers? Will they ever make an appearance (or be simulated) on OS X?
--Roy Whelden

On Sep 15, 2005, at 2:27 PM, email@hidden wrote:

On Sep 14, 2005, at 5:45 PM, deivy petrescu wrote:



On Sep 14, 2005, at 14:41, Matt Neuburg wrote:



On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:02:44 -0600, Gnarlodious

<email@hidden> said:



I have often considered zero to be an unreasonable number



Zero is reasonable. The square root of two is not, and was  

correctly named so by the Greeks who actually called it  

"unreasonable". (The Latin calque "irrational" loses a lot in  

translation.)



I have no idea of whom was the unreasonable Greek that called  

square root of 2 unreasonable.  It is not. It is actually very  

reasonable. It is the length of the diagonal of a square of side  

1.  This seems quite reasonable to me!



Well, that's because you're not 6th century-BC Greek cultist. =)  The  

"discovery" (and suppression of) irrational numbers is credited to  

the Pythagoreans, who believed that all things are, essentially,  

numeric.  The idea of a number that had a perfectly simple geometric  

representation yet could not be written down precisely was profoundly  

disturbing to them.  Other classes of numbers have suffered similar  

prejudices -- negatives, trancendentals, trans-finites, and so on.   

See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean> and <http:// 

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrational_number>.



--Chris Nebel

AppleScript and Automator Engineering



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