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Re: Inconsistent Embedding of Color Profile in Photoshop CS
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Re: Inconsistent Embedding of Color Profile in Photoshop CS


  • Subject: Re: Inconsistent Embedding of Color Profile in Photoshop CS
  • From: Brett Conlon <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:10:33 +1000


Hey Stephan,

In your original email you mention you are converting to profile first. Are you doing this via the "Convert to Profile…" window of the Image --> Mode menu?

This is the point I believe your chosen profile is physically and permanently adjusting the colours in your image, hence (if my understanding is correct) the image no longer needs the profile embedded when saving. Oh, and is it the same profile being used in both cases or different ones (maybe justifying both actions used)?

Coj

ps. re: Scripting Adobe apps, Photoshop isn't the most complete app to script but it's not too bad. I was told told by an Adobe rep that the developers worked really hard with InDesign to make almost everything you can do in the GUI scriptable.



stephan peterson <email@hidden>

21/02/06 03:53 PM

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Re: Inconsistent Embedding of Color Profile in Photoshop CS





Brett,

Thanks for your reply. I'm not much of an expert either, I'm just doing as directed by the "color guys". If you look at a save as dialog box you'll see there's an option ot embed the profile and theyr'e asking for that to be done. It looked easy enough because the dictionary for Photoshop CS has a save option saying embed color profile. What's strange is that it doesn't reliably work. Sometimes it does, other time it doesn't. It's very, very frustrating. I then thought recording an action would work, but that unreliable too. 

I'm new to AppleScript programming, but I'm working with some very experienced AppleScripters and they aren't suprised by my trouble because it's their experience that Adobe apps are difficult to work with when it comes to scripting.

Thanks again,
Stephan

On Feb 20, 2006, at 10:45 PM, Brett Conlon wrote:


I can't answer for your inconsistent script issue but, as far as I understant, your converting to a profile is as locked in as you can get it. Doesn't it permanently alter the colour values of your image to the profile you chose, whereas embedding a profile to an image when saving simply gives a colour output device information on what to do when outputting the image, but the profile can still be ignored and the image output as it is or another profile applied?


If this is correct then there is no need to try to embed the profile once you have already converted to it, in fact, could the embedded profile be altering the colours again if applied to the image for a second time at the RIP?


Colour management is an area I don't have a strong enough handle on but am trying to learn more about so I can be a better help within the design studio here. Perhaps someone with more colour experience can give you a definitive answer.


But, I would have thought that the PShop Action would give you consistent embedding results though.


Cheers,


Coj





stephan peterson <
email@hidden>

I'm pulling my hair out trying to get Photoshop to consistently embed  
a color profile. I've tried the following approaches:

                1. save current document in file (filename) as Photoshop format with  
options {embed color profile:true}
                2. I recorded an action that saves the file and I then call the action

Neither one of these methods works very consistently. Before I'm  
doing either of these I apply a profile and then convert to a  
profile. So the profile I'm trying to embed is the one that i've just  
converted the file to. If I go thru the save process manually it  
seems to work fine. The way that I verify that the profile is embeded  
or not is to use the Color Management Policies to check for a Profile  
Mismatch.

Has anyone else run into this problem before?

Thanks,
Stephan



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