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Re: View Options


  • Subject: Re: View Options
  • From: Luther Fuller <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:04:24 -0500

This afternoon, I modified a script that I use to position folder windows and set all sub-folders of a list view to list view. (It seems the bounds setting bug has been fixed, so I just removed the work- around.) I exercised it considerably for the remainder of the afternoon. I am still encountering folders that should be in list view, but have reverted to icon view. Or the other way around. The only way to be certain of the result is to do thousands of manual cmd- J, clicks.

An experiment ...
Create two new folders on your desktop named "untitled icon" and "untitled list".
1. Open "untitled icon"; set it to icon view; close it.
2. Open "untitled list"; set it to list view; close it.
3. Open "untitled icon"; Notice that it's reverted to list view; set it to icon view; close it.
4. Open "untitled list"; Notice that it's reverted to icon view; set it to list view; close it.
After how many of these steps do you notice that something is wrong.
Yes, I know there's probably a logical explanation, but right now I'm wearing my Naive-Mac-Users hat.
And how would I explain it to my sisters, who both use Macs, but hardly understand the difference between RAM and disk.


On Apr 29, 2008, at 5:47 PM, John Baltutis wrote:

On 4/29/08, Luther Fuller <email@hidden> wrote:

I've got a lot of folders that I want in list view and I want all its sub-folders in list view, too. So, I've got a script to do that. With some small modification, it now works in 10.5 ... well, sort of. I works, but when I open these folders manually, I find that they have reverted to another view.

I think I see why. (And I hope I'm wrong!) If you open the View
Options window of a folder window, you will find two new items:
1. An "Always open in _____ view" check box;
2. A "Grid spacing" slider; and
3. A "Use as Defaults" button.

When I change the View of a folder window, it's because I want that
view forever and ever until I change my mind, which may never change.
At least that's the way it worked in Tiger and all previous systems.

See my second comment, below.

If you change the view of a folder window in Leopard, the presumption
is that the change is temporary. That's what the "Always open ..."
check box is for.

Nope, that option allows users to set "list view" as the system default;
whereas, in 10.4 and earlier, you could only choose from icon view (the
default) unless you checked Finder's prefs->open windows in column view. Most
beta-testers (I was one) clamored for our preferred list view. I hate icon view
and can barely tolerate column view.


So windows have an 'always open' boolean property
that I should be able to change via an AppleScript. But ... I can't
find this in the Finder dictionary. (And there's no Grid Spacing
property, either. And nothing to explain the Defaults button.)

When you open a new Finder windiow, CMD+J, set it up the way you want, and
click on use as Defaults, which will apply to any window you're opening for the
first time. Previously opened windows retain whatever settings were there when
last opened.


Without being able to set an 'always open' boolean property, there is
no way to have any control of window views via AppleScript. All
changes are temporary and may disappear when the window is closed.

Nope, Finder windows retain whatever you last set them as.

Is there something here that I missed? Or are we screwed?
I hope someone knows more and that it's good news!

Not screwed, but not something for AS-at least I can't find it in the com.apple.finder.plist file. Just my 2ยข

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