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Re: View Options


  • Subject: Re: View Options
  • From: Luther Fuller <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:41:51 -0500

On Apr 30, 2008, at 3:34 PM, John Baltutis wrote:

On 4/30/08, Luther Fuller <email@hidden> wrote:

I didn't post the following remarks here because I wanted to find a more appropriate forum, such as perhaps something like email@hidden. I've looked and there's nothing, so ...


Now that I've experienced this View Option problem for three days, I think I see the problem and the fix.

1. In Tiger, the View Options window had buttons at the top to let you
choose "This window only" or "All windows". The "All windows" option
was the way you set the defaults. It was very irritating, because I
would forget to choose "This window only" and change the defaults
without realizing it.


2. In Leopard, these buttons have been eliminated and the defaults are
assumed to be whatever you last set for a View Option. (Which is
usually wrong. Even more confusing, it took me 2 days to figure it out.)


3. In Leopard 10.5.3 or 10.5.4 or ..., someone will have come to their
senses and it will be done properly. In the FINDER PREFERENCES window
there will be a new pane, called "Views", where you can choose a
default view; and having three tabs named "Icon", "List", "Column" and
"Cover Flow" where you will set the default properties for each view.
And, these defaults never, never, never change unless changed via
Finder Preferences.

Three tabs? That should be four tabs, if you want to include Cover View, which
not many people use or want.

I forgot to count after adding Cover Flow. Cover Flow seems to have some usefulness, but Icon Preview is a total waste.


4. When the user changes a View Option for a folder window, it stays
that way until it's changed again.
(i.e. THERE IS NO "Always open ..." BUTTON IN THE VIEW OPTIONS WINDOW!)

Maybe I'm missing something, but AFAICT, there's always an Always open withoption. If you deselect whatever is selected and change the view, thatchanges to that option.

If you know someone who can do something about this, pass it along.

ROTFL. Good luck with that. It took over a year for the engineers to include
list view as an option for Finder winbdows. My only suggestion is to file a bug
report/enhancement request via Apple's bugreporter system. Me? I'm happy with
the view options as currently implemented. Now, if there was only a way to
suppress the sidebar, which is another Leopard feature I find useless.


I've got more ideas along this line, but until the very good
functionality of View Options in Tiger is restored, I would just be
spinning my wheels.

As I noted privately, mucking with view options is probably not a good AS
candidate, unless you can somehow use UI scripting to open those view option
windows, ascertain what the settings are, and change them if they don't meet
your criteria. Maybe the .DS_Store file contains that data, but that's way over
my pay grade, especially since it isn't an xml1 file.

UI scripting for this is not viable. It just makes a bad problem worse.
My Naive-Mac-User view of this is that if I change a view, I have done so because that is what I expect it to be forever. I'm sure there's an engineer's/programmer's explanation that's perfectly correct and I sure I would understand it, but not while wearing Naive-Mac-User's hat. Whatever was done in Leopard wasn't simple and can't be explained to a Naive-Mac-User. Make it simple. (Item 2 is the problem. Try explaining that to anyone.)


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