Re: Thirteen Scripters Scripting
Re: Thirteen Scripters Scripting
- Subject: Re: Thirteen Scripters Scripting
- From: Paul Berkowitz <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:15:35 -0800
- Thread-topic: Thirteen Scripters Scripting
Thank you, Mark. Interesting. I'd bet Novello & Co. have probably not
received their due royalties over time.
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Paul Berkowitz
> From: "Mark J. Reed" <email@hidden>
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:46:14 -0500
> To: Nigel Garvey <email@hidden>
> Cc: AppleScript-Users <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Thirteen Scripters Scripting
>
> According to Wikipedia:
1. The version with "gold" instead of "golden" is
> older. Also, that
verse originally referred not to jewelry but to a variety
> of bird
whose markings include a yellow ring around the neck, possibly
> the
ring-necked pheasant. Thus the first seven gifts - all of the ones
that
> aren't people - are all birds. (Also, the four "calling birds"
were
> originally four "colly birds", a.k.a. blackbirds).
2. The copyright is to the
> tune, not the lyrics: it's not "five gold
rings", but the way the melody
> changes once you get that far.
Originally the pattern of the first four verses
> (where each of the
gifts past one has the same falling-rising intonation, sol
> re mi fa)
carried through; the modern melody that changes after you get to
> 5,
descennding through the previous gifts such that "two turtle doves" is
re
> do ti la sol) was written by Frederic Austin and the copyright is
still
> active; the current owner is Novello & Co.
> On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:27 AM,
> Nigel Garvey
<email@hidden> wrote:
> Paul Berkowitz
> wrote on Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:26:59 -0800:
>
>>On 12/27/08 5:13 AM, "Nigel
> Garvey" <email@hidden>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> In
>>> England,
> we spread "gold" over two notes rather than singing "golden"
>>...
>>
>>> It
> was mentioned in a quiz show on the telly over Christmas that while
>>> most
> of this song is traditional, the "Five gold rings" line
> is
>>copyrighted!
>>
>>Hmmmm. A way around the copyright presents itself as
> long as you don't mind
>>too much being taken for a crass
> Americanizer...
>>
>>So singers of the whole song have to request permission
> of the
>>copyright-holders to sing the song due to the inclusion of the
> copyrighted
>>line? Or only people who who would choose to display, sing or
> trinoidally
>>chant the single line on its own? I can't imagine that too many
> people not
>>wishing to advertise whatever it is that the copyrighters own (a
> chain of
>>trashy jewellery shops?) would want to go around spouting just that
> one line
>>anyway. AppleScripters had better beware errors resulting in rather
> more
>>than the usual consequences, though. ;-)
>
> ;-)
>
> I imagine it's
> only a problem when the song's sung (or reproduced) for a
> fee and includes
> that line. If I'd been more awake when QI was on, I'd
> have made a mental
> note of who the copyright owner was. I was more
> interested in learning what
> the original line might have been, but it
> wasn't mentioned.
>
> A couple of
> times at our staff carol services at the RSC, we played a
> setting by one of
> my colleagues (for speaker and instruments) of a text
> by John Julius Norwich
> the thank-you letters for the gifts. It started
> with charmed delight over
> the partridge and became increasingly fraught
> and hysterical as more and
> more stuff was delivered. The twelve drummers
> were acknowledged with a
> solicitor's letter instructing the sender never
> to bother the recipient
> again. Unfortunately, it doesn't make such an
> interesting scripting
> exercise. ;-)
>
>
> NG
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