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Re: A puzzle (summary)
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Re: A puzzle (summary)


  • Subject: Re: A puzzle (summary)
  • From: Richard Hartman <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:02:48 -0800

From: "Nigel Garvey" <email@hidden>

"Mark J. Reed" wrote on Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:32:45 -0500:

The answer isn't 100,000, unless the question is "how many times is
the last digit a 1?".

If the question is "how many 1's show up over the course of a million
miles?", the answer is 600,000: 100,000 per digit.

On my car, and in my understanding of English, the 1 on the left shows up
just once -- at 100000 miles (as it did recently!) -- then hangs around for
another 100000 miles, after which it isn't seen again. The second 1 along
shows up ten times as often, hanging around for a tenth of the time each
time. The third shows up ten times as often as that, and so on.


 (10 ^ 0) + (10 ^ 1) + (10 ^ 2) + (10 ^ 3) + (10 ^ 4) + (10 ^5)
 = 111111

Or: a number made up of the same number of ones as there are digits on
the instrument.

If the question is "how many miles does the car drive with a 1 showing
on the odometer?", the answer is 468,559. Much harder to calculate
without brute force counting.

It's rather a vague question, isn't it? ;)



Okay, lurker here. (Hi Nigel; long time no play!).

This is a cute problem and shows how carefully such questions must be posed. Here is an attempt at a summary for the terminally geeked :) Very little new here; Mark and Nigel have pretty much covered the ground. I haven't seen anyone mention #2 though.

There are 1,000,000 (10^6) distinguishable 6-digit decimal numbers (0 to 999,999).

1. How many of those numbers contain AT LEAST ONE "1"?

Answer: 10^6 minus the number that do not contain ANY ones (9^6) = 468,559

2. How many of those 10^6 numbers contain EXACTLY ONE "1" somewhere in the 6-number string?

	Answer: 6x9^5 = 354,294

3. How many times does a "1" roll into view on one of the 6 wheels of a standard odometer?

	Answer: 111,111 (See Nigel's discussion)

4. How many ones appear in the entire collection of 10^6 six-digit numbers (which collection has 6x10^6 digits)
Answer: 600,000 (i.e., 1/10 of 6x10^6; See Mark's discussion)



Have a great weekend timing all these possibilities.


Richard Hartman

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