Re: Consternation resulting from trying to use Apple Mail as a Gmail IMAP Client
Re: Consternation resulting from trying to use Apple Mail as a Gmail IMAP Client
- Subject: Re: Consternation resulting from trying to use Apple Mail as a Gmail IMAP Client
- From: Laine Lee <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:37:46 -0500
- Thread-topic: Consternation resulting from trying to use Apple Mail as a Gmail IMAP Client
Thanks for the Gmail lesson, Mark. I was able to solve my problem without a
scripting solution after all, but the amount of experimentation that the
solution required was definitely vexing for me. These seem to be the
required settings to make it work as I would expected it to. I¹m using Mail
3.0 (Leopard). In Mailbox behaviors in Prefs for the Gmail myutsa account, I
put a checkmark in both ³Move deleted messages to the Trash mailbox² and
³Store deleted messages on the server² (even though that appears to
contradict the Gmail IMAP settings suggestions). I selected ³When quitting
Mail² for the ³Permanently erase deleted message when² item. But the tricky
part seems to me to be that I had to select the trash folder that appeared
as a subfolder of ³[Gmail]² in Apple Mail, and select ³Use this Mailbox
for...² --> Trash more than once before the items began showing up in the
correct corresponding locations in both interfaces and were actually deleted
when I expected them to be.
On 9/12/08 2:57 PM, "Mark J. Reed" <email@hidden> wrote:
> Let's look at this from the GMail perspective, ignoring IMAP for a moment.
>
> GMail doesn't have folders. All your mail goes in one big bucket.
> You're not supposed to sort it; the theory is that you can always use
> the search functionality to find any message you need, especially
> since they're automatically grouped into threads ("conversations") so
> finding any message in a thread gives you all of them.
>
> It does have labels, which you can use much the same way as folders,
> except that they don't nest into a hierarchy, and they do combine: you
> can put as many labels as you like on a message, independently of each
> other.
>
> Now, from the IMAP viewpoint, see
> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=77657 for how
> things map.
>
> It's true that all your mail goes into the "All Mail" folder, and that
> "moving" a message into a different "folder" just results in a label
> being applied. But my understanding (as a GMail user who hasn't tried
> to use it via IMAP), the "All Mail" folder is *not* your Inbox. All
> the messages in your GMail Inbox get the "Inbox" label and so show up
> in an IMAP folder named "Inbox". Moving messages out of the Inbox and
> into another folder should remove that label, causing the message to
> disappear from your IMAP Inbox as well.
--
Laine Lee
email@hidden
http://lonestar.utsa.edu/llee
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