Re: AppleScript-Users Digest, Vol 9, Issue 154
Re: AppleScript-Users Digest, Vol 9, Issue 154
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- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:01:21 -0400
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>> 1. Re: frontmost application annoyance (Yuma Antoine Decaux)
>> 2. Re: frontmost application annoyance (Robert Poland)
>> 3. Re: frontmost application annoyance (Luther Fuller)
>> 4. Announcing MailWing 4.2 (Luther Fuller)
>> 5. offlist: Re: Announcing MailWing 4.2 (Alex Zavatone)
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>> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:43:31 +1200
>> From: Yuma Antoine Decaux <email@hidden>
>> To: Luther Fuller <email@hidden>
>> Cc: Applescript Users <email@hidden>
>> Subject: Re: frontmost application annoyance
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>> Hi again,
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>> Actually activate is not required as the command is part of the dictionary and therefore doesn't require gui intervention.
>>
>> I've tried several other solutions but none works "yet".
>>
>> The most promising one seems to be about the visible true false on processes.
>>
>> Since the script annoyingly sticks to the front, i set a
>>
>> Set _app to name of (info for path to frontmost application)
>> Tell application "System Events"
>> Set visible of process _app to false
>> Set _app to bundle id of path to frontmost application
>> Tell process _app
>> Set visible to true
>> End tell
>>
>> --rest of script
>>
>> But for the life of me, visible true false doesn't work work. I get a
>>
>> Still looking around, i'll get to it at some point.
>>
>> I mean, there must have been other people trying to make a script which first identifies which application they're on, then do something with it.
>>
>> On 13/04/2012, at 12:22 AM, Luther Fuller <email@hidden> wrote:
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>>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've followed your recommendations but now the application opens and blocks the underlying application i wish to operate on.
>>>>
>>>> I've added an lsuielement boolean key to the info.plist as you suggested but the result is the one aforementioned.
>>>
>>> I knew there was a reason for using the word "perhaps".
>>>
>>> Here is another way to get the frontmost application ...
>>>
>>> tell application "System Events" to set frontAppl to (name of (some process whose frontmost is true)) as text
>>>
>>> And, perhaps there should be an 'activate' after tell application "TextEdit"
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:26:23 -0600
>> From: Robert Poland <email@hidden>
>> To: Yuma Antoine Decaux <email@hidden>
>> Cc: Applescript Users <email@hidden>
>> Subject: Re: frontmost application annoyance
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>> i found that Activate is necessary and works really well.
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>> On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
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>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> Actually activate is not required as the command is part of the dictionary and therefore doesn't require gui intervention.
>>>
>>> I've tried several other solutions but none works "yet".
>>>
>>> The most promising one seems to be about the visible true false on processes.
>>>
>>> Since the script annoyingly sticks to the front, i set a
>>>
>>> Set _app to name of (info for path to frontmost application)
>>> Tell application "System Events"
>>> Set visible of process _app to false
>>> Set _app to bundle id of path to frontmost application
>>> Tell process _app
>>> Set visible to true
>>> End tell
>>>
>>> --rest of script
>>>
>>> But for the life of me, visible true false doesn't work work. I get a
>>>
>>> Still looking around, i'll get to it at some point.
>>>
>>> I mean, there must have been other people trying to make a script which first identifies which application they're on, then do something with it.
>>>
>>> On 13/04/2012, at 12:22 AM, Luther Fuller <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've followed your recommendations but now the application opens and blocks the underlying application i wish to operate on.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've added an lsuielement boolean key to the info.plist as you suggested but the result is the one aforementioned.
>>>>
>>>> I knew there was a reason for using the word "perhaps".
>>>>
>>>> Here is another way to get the frontmost application ...
>>>>
>>>> tell application "System Events" to set frontAppl to (name of (some process whose frontmost is true)) as text
>>>>
>>>> And, perhaps there should be an 'activate' after tell application "TextEdit"
>>>>
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>> Robert Poland - Fort Collins, CO
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:27:24 -0500
>> From: Luther Fuller <email@hidden>
>> To: Applescript Users <email@hidden>
>> Subject: Re: frontmost application annoyance
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>> On Apr 12, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
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>>> Set _app to name of (info for path to frontmost application)
>>> Tell application "System Events"
>>> Set visible of process _app to false
>>> Set _app to bundle id of path to frontmost application
>>> Tell process _app
>>> Set visible to true
>>> End tell
>>
>> I tried your script and noticed a problem with the first line.
>> Rather than explain details, I wrote this instructive script ...
>>
>> set _app to name of (info for (path to frontmost application)) --> "appName.app"
>> log _app & return
>>
>> tell application "System Events" to set frontAppl to (name of (some process whose frontmost is true)) as text
>> log frontAppl & return
>>
>> tell application "System Events"
>> name of every process whose visible is true
>> log the result
>> end tell
>>
>> Notice that the first line (from your script) returns a string ending with ".app".
>> But notice that the third line is a list of processes none of which end with ".app".
>> Therefore, your script can't find the correct application name.
>>
>> Notice that the second line corrects this problem. frontAppl will be in the list returned by line three.
>>
>> The reason you have to do this is to identify your application in the list, then find the FORMER front application.
>>
>> The very best way to do this is to simply make your application invisible right from the start.
>> In other words, set LSUIElement = true in your application bundle's 'Info.plist' file.
>> Once you have done this manually a few times, you will give up and use Script Bundle Tool.
>> (Which is what prompted me to write SBT some years ago!)
>>
>> In Script Bundle Tool, Edit the project and select "Show in Dock is false".
>> In other words, "Change" this dialog. (The default is true) ...
>>
>>
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>> Now it will work.
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:46:22 -0500
>> From: Luther Fuller <email@hidden>
>> To: Applescript Users <email@hidden>
>> Subject: Announcing MailWing 4.2
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>> Earlier this week, I released MailWing 4.2.
>> Have ever wondered what 2800 lines of plain vanilla AppleScript code can do?
>> If you are curious, you can read about it (and download) here ...
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>> http://lutherfuller.com/MailWing.html
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:35:40 -0400
>> From: Alex Zavatone <email@hidden>
>> To: Luther Fuller <email@hidden>
>> Cc: Applescript Users <email@hidden>
>> Subject: offlist: Re: Announcing MailWing 4.2
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>> Congrats man
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Luther Fuller wrote:
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>>> Earlier this week, I released MailWing 4.2.
>>> Have ever wondered what 2800 lines of plain vanilla AppleScript code can do?
>>> If you are curious, you can read about it (and download) here ...
>>>
>>> http://lutherfuller.com/MailWing.html
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:11:27 +1200
> From: Yuma Antoine Decaux <email@hidden>
> To: AppleScript Users <email@hidden>
> Subject: smilelabs applescript terminal
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> Hi all,
>
> I've finished a milestone on my complex script that uses several applications databases etc, and one section is plotting a graph with smile.
>
> Just wanted to know if i can actually use smile as a replacement for applescript, as in whether all applescript libraries work within the smile terminal? Display dialog, application suites, etc ?
>
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> Best regards,
>
> Yuma
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> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 00:23:03 -0700
> From: Rick Gordon <email@hidden>
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> Subject: Adding to Default Code for Application in Library
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> Is there any way to add stub code to the default template for an application?
>
> I'd like to, for instance, add to the code when making a new AS document for InDesign, so that instead of it just being:
>
> tell application "Adobe InDesign CS5.5"
> end tell
>
> ... it would be:
>
> tell application "Adobe InDesign CS5.5"
> tell document 1
> end tell
> end tell
>
> Possible?
>
> --
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> EMERALD VALLEY GRAPHICS AND CONSULTING
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 00:26:30 -0700
> From: Rick Gordon <email@hidden>
> To: email@hidden
> Subject: InDesign Footnotes
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> Is there any way to determine what the visible number associated with a footnote is?
>
> I might have expected that that the name would be set to the number, but I'm seeing that name remains an empty string, and content contains the actual footnote content.
>
> How, for instance, could you translate a footnote into straight text?
> --
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:49:11 -0500
> From: Christopher Stone <email@hidden>
> To: Applescript Users List <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: smilelabs applescript terminal
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> On Apr 12, 2012, at 23:11, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
>> Just wanted to know if i can actually use smile as a replacement for applescript, as in whether all applescript libraries work within the smile terminal? Display dialog, application suites, etc ?
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> Hey Yuma,
>
> No Smile does not replace Applescript - Smile is an Applescript Editor and environment which adds a great deal to the language both through its own dictionary and through the OSAXEN it installs.
>
> Can you use it as a complete replacement for the Applescript Editor? Yes.
>
> By libraries do you mean OSAXEN? Those are not libraries but extensions to Applescript. Smile sees all of them.
>
> Smile does have a system for using user-libraries.
>
> Smile also has script windows in addition to terminal windows.
>
> A very useful tool it is.
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Chris
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> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:51:05 -0500
> From: Christopher Stone <email@hidden>
> To: Applescript Users List <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Adding to Default Code for Application in Library
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> On Apr 13, 2012, at 02:23, Rick Gordon wrote:
>> Is there any way to add stub code to the default template for an application?
>>
>> I'd like to, for instance, add to the code when making a new AS document for InDesign, so that instead of it just being:
>>
>> tell application "Adobe InDesign CS5.5"
>> end tell
>>
>> ... it would be:
>>
>> tell application "Adobe InDesign CS5.5"
>> tell document 1
>> end tell
>> end tell
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> Hey Rick,
>
> It's unclear to me what you mean.
>
> I use Script Debugger, so my experience with the Applescript Editor is limited.
>
> The template system would seem to let you insert anything you want.
>
> Hmm. There used to be a bunch of scripts for the Applescript Editor, but I don't find them on my system. I guess the templates are supposed to be a replacement, but there aren't very blinkin' many.
>
> Script Debugger has a much richer feature-set, but then again it should for the money. :)
>
> It has its own built-in text-expansion, and I use both it and Typinator for boiler-plate - each according to its strengths.
>
>
>
> This pic is Typinator's Quick-Search in action. 'h' limits the search to my handler-lib.
>
> I can also type 'fmv' directly in any app to get my front-message-viewer boilerplate for Mail.
>
> Here's something that might be useful for you in the Applescript Editor:
>
> set inDesignTemplate to "tell application \"Adobe InDesign CS5.5\"
> tell document 1
>
> end tell
> end tell
> "
> tell application "AppleScript Editor"
> activate
> set newDoc to make new document
> tell newDoc
> set its text to inDesignTemplate
> set selection to insertion point 60
> end tell
> end tell
>
> You can run that from a service or form the Applescript Menu or from FastScripts, etc.
>
> Let me know if I've misunderstood your request.
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Chris
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