Re: AppleScript "standard libraries" project - need to hand off now
Re: AppleScript "standard libraries" project - need to hand off now
- Subject: Re: AppleScript "standard libraries" project - need to hand off now
- From: Takaaki Naganoya <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 13:33:16 +0900
Hi has,
I read your whole "standard libraries”. This is a painstaking work. It is very tidy.
But I found it is hard to maintain.
1. SDEF is an obstacle in this project. It is too heavy to edit for me with Script Editor on my MacBook Pro 2012. I found it a mistake to use SDEFs with such a large editable library.
2. This library is not practical. Only low-level functions are not here as professional level scripters are using.
3. Your script is not an instructive example. It seems demonstration-purpose one just as you wrote. There is a need to decipher.
I got some rare lesson.
1. Avoid to use SDEFs with large size library
2. Library has to be an instructive example
--
Takaaki Naganoya
email@hidden
http://piyocast.com/as/
> 2016/06/23 23:53、Hengist Podd <email@hidden> のメール：
>
> Hi all,
>
> As you may recall, back at the start of this year I was bitching about the AS team adding a native library loader to AppleScript in 10.9 yet bizarrely forgetting to provide ANY general-purpose libraries along with it, after which I decided to go write the damn things myself just so AS users would at least have something decent to use. The result was a set of seven 'standard libraries' (plus one support and one code testing library) providing commands for a wide range of everyday tasks:
>
> Text -- general text manipulation (change case, trim, split, join, etc), search and replace (includes regular expression support)
>
> Number -- parse and format numeric text, decimal rounding, logarithms, trigonometry
>
> Date -- parse and format date text and records, time zone and localization support
>
> List -- general list manipulation (insert, remove, filter, transpose), search, customizable sort
>
> File -- path manipulation, read and write files, shell script support
>
> Objects -- native dictionary, stack, queue, and timing objects
>
> Web -- URL string manipulation, parse and format JSON data, send HTTP requests
>
>
> You can grab the full set off Github; just download, unzip, and drop all the library scripts into ~/Library/Script Libraries ready for use:
>
> https://github.com/hhas/applescript-stdlib/archive/master.zip
>
> They all have SDEFs so you can drop them onto SE's Library window for quick access to documentation too. Just add the appropriate `use script "NAME"` statements at the top of your scripts and you're good to go.
>
>
> Anyway, long story short, I got it about 98% done before running out of both time and motivation - the implementation is feature-complete and generally pretty polished and bombproof, but there's still some holes to fill in test coverage and user documentation. With the day job finally starting to kick off (yay!) the rest of my year is going to be busy with that (I've a TODO list already as long as my arm), and any leftover dev time will be going into trying to get my entoli language (a next-generation AppleScript-Logo hybrid) up and out. I waited to see what was announced at WWDC just in case the AS team had something up their sleeves, but with zero progress on AppleScript and Apple itself now trying to shill Swift Playgrounds as "Programming for Everyone" (yeah, right), I simply can't spend any more time on AppleScript work when I'm neither getting paid for it nor have any use for it myself.
>
> In an ideal world Apple would take over these libraries itself and include them directly in future OS releases, but the AS team didn't even reply to the offer (Not Invented Here syndrome is endemic in that dept). So, if the AppleScript community would like a chance to *help itself* then here it is: I want someone experienced in AppleScript and ASOC, and preferably with some actual programming skills as well (cos this is not just toy code), to step up and officially take the whole project over from me over the next couple of weeks. That's *full ownership*, BTW: all copyright, choice of license, project management, etc. I'll provide assistance in getting up to speed on the code, plus I can provide private support in dealing with any help requests and bug squashing if requested. But otherwise I'm having no involvement: getting the libraries out into users' hands and providing ongoing education, evangelization, maintenance, and support falls to the new owner, and the freedom to do that (and whether it ultimately succeeds or fails) is entirely theirs too.
>
> Anyone who has the technical chops, time, and confidence to have a realistic crack at it, please drop us an email (and/or reply to the list; I'm not bothered either way), making sure to use my new address (email@hidden) if emailing directly. I do hope someone will, but please no timewasters: if you crater it then that's on you (I'm not cleaning up), just as if you make a huge success of it the credit's all yours too. Alternatively, if no-one steps up by end of June I'm just going to zip it up and put it in a Radar request asking Apple to take it. I'll post the ticket here so folks can dupe it if they want, but frankly the best way to get a high-quality stdlib into 10.13 is to get thousands of AS users happily using it first, then get all of them to demand its official adoption. Either way I'm deleting the repo and all related work no later than 15 July (I've too many dead projects trailing around already), so that gives everyone a nice clean deadline to aim for.
>
> Best regards,
>
> has
>
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