Re: AppleScript-Users Digest, Vol 20, Issue 43
Re: AppleScript-Users Digest, Vol 20, Issue 43
- Subject: Re: AppleScript-Users Digest, Vol 20, Issue 43
- From: Eric Tapman via AppleScript-Users <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 08:02:19 -0400
- Thread-topic: AppleScript-Users Digest, Vol 20, Issue 43
I'm in for $40.
Thanks,
Eric Tapman
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1. Re: Ann: New eBook AppleScript Latest Reference for v2.8
(Takaaki Naganoya)
2. Re: Problems with AppleScript under Ventura (email@hidden)
3. Re: Problems with AppleScript under Ventura (email@hidden)
4. Re: Ann: New eBook AppleScript Latest Reference for v2.8
(Ray Robertson)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 14:04:19 +0900
From: Takaaki Naganoya <email@hidden>
To: Takaaki Naganoya via AppleScript-Users
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Subject: Re: Ann: New eBook AppleScript Latest Reference for v2.8
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Hi, all
Many people agreed. Thank you for your heartwarming messages.
Currently, 10 people have agreed to this. I will start once we have 10 more
people.
Apple is not aware of the overall picture of AppleScript, and even Apple
personnel only understand individual phenomena.
By knowing the current situation well, we can stop Apple from doing
something unreasonable, and conversely, we can also see if something could have
been better.
Thank you,
Takaaki Naganoya
> 2023/10/15 4:50?John Garrigues <email@hidden>????:
>
> I too would be interested in purchasing a copy, but would you consider
allowing a preview of a section first? (In Japanese is fine; I?ll translate
with ChatGPT).
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>
>
>> On Oct 14, 2023, at 02:37, Rowland Carson via AppleScript-Users
<email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Please add me to those interested in the english version at $40.
>>
>> in friendship
>>
>> Rowland
>>
>>> On 2023-10-13, at 14:45, Takaaki Naganoya via AppleScript-Users
<email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your interest.
>>>
>>> Now, this book is full written in Japanese language.
>>> Some people ask me about English version (thanks).
>>>
>>> If at least 20 readers exist, I'll try it under this condition.
>>>
>>> --Book will be divided into 4 part
>>> --One book will be sold at US$ 40
>>> --Supplement Scripts may be omitted (hardly depend on Japanese Emoji)
>>>
>>> Takaaki Naganoya
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2023/10/13 22:10?Stephen Cronin <email@hidden>????:
>>>>
>>>> Is there an English version? Link?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 12, 2023, at 11:57?PM, Takaaki Naganoya via AppleScript-Users
<email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Seven years have passed since the publication of the first
"AppleScript Latest Reference for macOS 10.11". We have published a completely
updated updated version. The PDF is 974 pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://piyomarusoft.booth.pm/items/4923559
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Updated to match the latest OS environment
>>>>>
>>>>> Updated for macOS 12/13/14 to match the current AppleScript v2.8
environment. As much as possible, we track changes in terminology dictionaries
for each application since macOS 10.13 and evaluate the security constraints of
each AppleScript execution program using benchmark scripts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wider, easier to understand, more detailed
>>>>>
>>>>> The number of pages has been significantly increased from the
original "AppleScript Latest Reference" (483 pages) to 974 pages. As a result,
we have expanded the scope of explanation.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition, we have adopted a chapter structure divided by the
difficulty of the explanation content and the level of the intended user.
>>>>>
>>>>> Useful information for beginners to Script (Introduction), Useful
information for Script users (Usage), Useful information for users who actually
write scripts (Practical), Useful information to look up when you have a
problem. Information (materials), etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> The appendix of this book includes the latest version of Snipet
Script's "Piyomaru Context Menu Assistant" which can be called from the script
editor's context menu, "Piyomaru Script Templates" which can be called as a
script editor template, and "Dynamic Menu Clicker" which is a powerful helper
for GUI Scripting. It will be configured (I will attach it all together from
now on, as it requires some modification).
>>>>>
>>>>> This book is an easy-to-understand summary of information that will
be useful for both those who are planning to dabble in Script and those who are
already using it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Table Of Contents:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Special feature
>>>>>
>>>>> All about AppleScriptv2.8
>>>>> Shortcuts Events
>>>>> AppleScript instruction extension in the era without OSAX
>>>>> Remove various security restrictions
>>>>> Current status of various support programs
>>>>> Explanation of AppleScript compatibility of macOS standard equipment
& Apple genuine apps
>>>>>
Finder/Automator/Calendar/Contacts/Mail/Maps/Messages/Music/Memos/Photos/System
Settings/Preview/QuickTime Player/Reminder/Safari/Script
Editor/Shortcuts/Terminal/TextEdit/tv/VoiceOver/Screen Sharing/ Console/System
Information/Keynote/Pages/Numbers/Claris FileMaker Pro/Xcode/Apple
Configurator/Garageband/iMovie/Instruments
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Introduction
>>>>>
>>>>> What shapes the AppleScript world?
>>>>> Standard macOS applications that support AppleScript
>>>>> Various macOS standard tools that can execute AppleScript
>>>>> Third-party hardware and software that can run AppleScript
>>>>> What is AppleScript?
>>>>> How to use the script editor
>>>>> What happens during "Syntax check"
>>>>> Things to prepare before writing a script
>>>>> AppleScript Fastest Master
>>>>> Grammar edition
>>>>> List of AppleScript reserved words
>>>>> AppleScript Latest Reference
>>>>> tell blocks/actions/dialog display/commands/other language
calls/ordinals/control syntax/string operations/system date/data
types/constants/variable/property declarations/functions/operators/path
related/file input/output/localization Related/Text summarization/Web service
calls/Filter references/Subroutine declarations/Meaningless words/Clipboard
control/Volume control/Script objects/Others
>>>>> Instruction pattern for application
>>>>> What is Script Debugger?
>>>>> Finder terminology dictionary strategy guide
>>>>> Standard processing using Finder
>>>>> Column: Finder setting items that affect GUI app operations
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Usage version
>>>>>
>>>>> How to use the Script Menu
>>>>> FastScripts 3
>>>>> Script Menu for each application
>>>>> Folder action explanation
>>>>> AppleScript used from Terminal
>>>>> Various plug-insAppleScript
>>>>> PDF Workflow Script Explanation
>>>>> Mail Plugin Script Explanation
>>>>> Call from context menu
>>>>> Obsolete plugin AppleScript
>>>>> Other AppleScript Launchers ~ Switch
Control/Automator/Shortcuts/Voice Control/Adobe Illustrator 2023/Adobe InDesign
2023/Keyboard Maestro/Hammerspoon/Service Station/Dropzone 4/Visual Studio
Code/CotEditor+PowerPack/Xojo 2023/Live Code/Elgato Stream Deck
>>>>> AppleScript under restricted user account & restricted machine
environment
>>>>> Parental Controls and AppleScript
>>>>> AppleScript under MDM restrictions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Practical edition
>>>>>
>>>>> Check OS version number
>>>>> Know your runtime environment
>>>>> Hardware information
>>>>> GUI Scripting Overview
>>>>> Easily utilize online functions from AppleScript
>>>>> REST API call
>>>>> JavaScript library calls on CDN
>>>>> Script operation techniques that do not require creating droplets
>>>>> Introduction to Cocoa Scripting
>>>>> List of supported frameworks (macOS 13/14)
>>>>> Sell apps created with AppleScript on the Mac App Store
>>>>> Piyomaru Context Menu Assistant
>>>>> Piyomaru Script Templates
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Materials
>>>>>
>>>>> Technologies that are not compatible with AppleScript
>>>>> Different coordinate systems for each application
>>>>> AppleScript written in a proprietary macro language ~ Microsoft
Office VBA/Claris FileMaker Pro Script Step
>>>>> Cooperation with iOS devices
>>>>> Preparation
>>>>> Run AppleScript from iOS device
>>>>> Update information on your iOS device
>>>>> Make a phone call with AppleScript
>>>>> Send SMS with AppleScript
>>>>> Make a FaceTime call with your iPhone/iPad
>>>>> Resource reference ~ Predicate statement/UTI/icon/disk image
>>>>> History of AppleScript
>>>>> Element technology history of macOS and AppleScript
>>>>> History of AppleScript macOS edition
>>>>> History of AppleScript Classic MacOS edition
>>>>> AppleScript FAQs
>>>>> Error number and error message
>>>>> AppleScript error code table
>>>>> key code table
>>>>> Key code for key input simulation
>>>>> Afterword
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Takaaki Naganoya
>>>>> email@hidden
>>>>> http://piyocast.com/as/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
>>>>> AppleScript-Users mailing list
(email@hidden)
>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:
>>>>>
>>>>> Archives: http://lists.apple.com/archives/applescript-users
>>>>>
>>>>> This email sent to email@hidden
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Takaaki Naganoya
>>> email@hidden
>>> http://piyocast.com/as/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
>>> AppleScript-Users mailing list (email@hidden)
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>>> This email sent to email@hidden
>>
>> | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ...
>> | <email@hidden> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk
>> | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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Takaaki Naganoya
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 03:24:45 -0700
From: email@hidden
To: AppleScript Users <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Problems with AppleScript under Ventura
Message-ID: <email@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> On Sep 15, 2023, at 8:56 AM, Ralph Richardson
<email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Since the selection ends up on the recipient, you can replace:
> set focused of scroll area of window 1 to true -- (This no longer works.)
>
> with:
> repeat 5 times
> keystroke tab
> end repeat
Just thought I?d share something I found in my continuing search to fix
my script. The following single line replaces the repeat loop above:
keystroke tab using shift down
This will only work if the cursor is in the recipient field, though.
If it's is in another field, you?ll still need a repeat loop.
Marc
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 03:44:31 -0700
From: email@hidden
To: AppleScript Users <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Problems with AppleScript under Ventura
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> On Sep 15, 2023, at 8:56 AM, Ralph Richardson
<email@hidden> wrote:
>
> set focused of scroll area of window 1 to true -- (This no longer works.)
And shortly after I sent my last email (of course), I found the fix for
the above code. Under Ventura, the following works:
set focused of scroll area 1 of group 1 of group 1 of window 1 to true
And this will work no matter which field is currently selected in Mail.
BTW, I found this using Script Debugger?s dictionary under the Explorer
tab, under processes. A very handy tool indeed!
Marc
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 07:35:51 -0400
From: Ray Robertson <email@hidden>
To: Takaaki Naganoya via AppleScript-Users
<email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Ann: New eBook AppleScript Latest Reference for v2.8
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<email@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Takaaki,
I don?t script much anymore, but would like to support your efforts with
$40 in thanks for all you are doing for the community.
If you need any help proofreading a couple of chapters translated into
English, let me know. Perhaps a few others here could contribute proofreading
time as well.
Ray Robertson
Still Waters Qigong
New evidence-based practice: Tai Chi for Arthritis and Fall Prevention
> On Oct 16, 2023, at 1:04 AM, Takaaki Naganoya via AppleScript-Users
<email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Hi, all
>
> Many people agreed. Thank you for your heartwarming messages.
>
> Currently, 10 people have agreed to this. I will start once we have 10
more people.
>
> Apple is not aware of the overall picture of AppleScript, and even Apple
personnel only understand individual phenomena.
>
> By knowing the current situation well, we can stop Apple from doing
something unreasonable, and conversely, we can also see if something could have
been better.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Takaaki Naganoya
>
>
>> 2023/10/15 4:50?John Garrigues <email@hidden>????:
>>
>> I too would be interested in purchasing a copy, but would you consider
allowing a preview of a section first? (In Japanese is fine; I?ll translate
with ChatGPT).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2023, at 02:37, Rowland Carson via AppleScript-Users
<email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> Please add me to those interested in the english version at $40.
>>>
>>> in friendship
>>>
>>> Rowland
>>>
>>>> On 2023-10-13, at 14:45, Takaaki Naganoya via AppleScript-Users
<email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your interest.
>>>>
>>>> Now, this book is full written in Japanese language.
>>>> Some people ask me about English version (thanks).
>>>>
>>>> If at least 20 readers exist, I'll try it under this condition.
>>>>
>>>> --Book will be divided into 4 part
>>>> --One book will be sold at US$ 40
>>>> --Supplement Scripts may be omitted (hardly depend on Japanese Emoji)
>>>>
>>>> Takaaki Naganoya
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2023/10/13 22:10?Stephen Cronin <email@hidden>????:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there an English version? Link?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 12, 2023, at 11:57?PM, Takaaki Naganoya via AppleScript-Users
<email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seven years have passed since the publication of the first
"AppleScript Latest Reference for macOS 10.11". We have published a completely
updated updated version. The PDF is 974 pages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://piyomarusoft.booth.pm/items/4923559
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Updated to match the latest OS environment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Updated for macOS 12/13/14 to match the current AppleScript v2.8
environment. As much as possible, we track changes in terminology dictionaries
for each application since macOS 10.13 and evaluate the security constraints of
each AppleScript execution program using benchmark scripts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wider, easier to understand, more detailed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The number of pages has been significantly increased from the
original "AppleScript Latest Reference" (483 pages) to 974 pages. As a result,
we have expanded the scope of explanation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In addition, we have adopted a chapter structure divided by the
difficulty of the explanation content and the level of the intended user.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Useful information for beginners to Script (Introduction), Useful
information for Script users (Usage), Useful information for users who actually
write scripts (Practical), Useful information to look up when you have a
problem. Information (materials), etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The appendix of this book includes the latest version of Snipet
Script's "Piyomaru Context Menu Assistant" which can be called from the script
editor's context menu, "Piyomaru Script Templates" which can be called as a
script editor template, and "Dynamic Menu Clicker" which is a powerful helper
for GUI Scripting. It will be configured (I will attach it all together from
now on, as it requires some modification).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This book is an easy-to-understand summary of information that will
be useful for both those who are planning to dabble in Script and those who are
already using it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Table Of Contents:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Special feature
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All about AppleScriptv2.8
>>>>>> Shortcuts Events
>>>>>> AppleScript instruction extension in the era without OSAX
>>>>>> Remove various security restrictions
>>>>>> Current status of various support programs
>>>>>> Explanation of AppleScript compatibility of macOS standard equipment
& Apple genuine apps
>>>>>>
Finder/Automator/Calendar/Contacts/Mail/Maps/Messages/Music/Memos/Photos/System
Settings/Preview/QuickTime Player/Reminder/Safari/Script
Editor/Shortcuts/Terminal/TextEdit/tv/VoiceOver/Screen Sharing/ Console/System
Information/Keynote/Pages/Numbers/Claris FileMaker Pro/Xcode/Apple
Configurator/Garageband/iMovie/Instruments
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Introduction
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What shapes the AppleScript world?
>>>>>> Standard macOS applications that support AppleScript
>>>>>> Various macOS standard tools that can execute AppleScript
>>>>>> Third-party hardware and software that can run AppleScript
>>>>>> What is AppleScript?
>>>>>> How to use the script editor
>>>>>> What happens during "Syntax check"
>>>>>> Things to prepare before writing a script
>>>>>> AppleScript Fastest Master
>>>>>> Grammar edition
>>>>>> List of AppleScript reserved words
>>>>>> AppleScript Latest Reference
>>>>>> tell blocks/actions/dialog display/commands/other language
calls/ordinals/control syntax/string operations/system date/data
types/constants/variable/property declarations/functions/operators/path
related/file input/output/localization Related/Text summarization/Web service
calls/Filter references/Subroutine declarations/Meaningless words/Clipboard
control/Volume control/Script objects/Others
>>>>>> Instruction pattern for application
>>>>>> What is Script Debugger?
>>>>>> Finder terminology dictionary strategy guide
>>>>>> Standard processing using Finder
>>>>>> Column: Finder setting items that affect GUI app operations
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Usage version
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How to use the Script Menu
>>>>>> FastScripts 3
>>>>>> Script Menu for each application
>>>>>> Folder action explanation
>>>>>> AppleScript used from Terminal
>>>>>> Various plug-insAppleScript
>>>>>> PDF Workflow Script Explanation
>>>>>> Mail Plugin Script Explanation
>>>>>> Call from context menu
>>>>>> Obsolete plugin AppleScript
>>>>>> Other AppleScript Launchers ~ Switch
Control/Automator/Shortcuts/Voice Control/Adobe Illustrator 2023/Adobe InDesign
2023/Keyboard Maestro/Hammerspoon/Service Station/Dropzone 4/Visual Studio
Code/CotEditor+PowerPack/Xojo 2023/Live Code/Elgato Stream Deck
>>>>>> AppleScript under restricted user account & restricted machine
environment
>>>>>> Parental Controls and AppleScript
>>>>>> AppleScript under MDM restrictions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Practical edition
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check OS version number
>>>>>> Know your runtime environment
>>>>>> Hardware information
>>>>>> GUI Scripting Overview
>>>>>> Easily utilize online functions from AppleScript
>>>>>> REST API call
>>>>>> JavaScript library calls on CDN
>>>>>> Script operation techniques that do not require creating droplets
>>>>>> Introduction to Cocoa Scripting
>>>>>> List of supported frameworks (macOS 13/14)
>>>>>> Sell apps created with AppleScript on the Mac App Store
>>>>>> Piyomaru Context Menu Assistant
>>>>>> Piyomaru Script Templates
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Materials
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Technologies that are not compatible with AppleScript
>>>>>> Different coordinate systems for each application
>>>>>> AppleScript written in a proprietary macro language ~ Microsoft
Office VBA/Claris FileMaker Pro Script Step
>>>>>> Cooperation with iOS devices
>>>>>> Preparation
>>>>>> Run AppleScript from iOS device
>>>>>> Update information on your iOS device
>>>>>> Make a phone call with AppleScript
>>>>>> Send SMS with AppleScript
>>>>>> Make a FaceTime call with your iPhone/iPad
>>>>>> Resource reference ~ Predicate statement/UTI/icon/disk image
>>>>>> History of AppleScript
>>>>>> Element technology history of macOS and AppleScript
>>>>>> History of AppleScript macOS edition
>>>>>> History of AppleScript Classic MacOS edition
>>>>>> AppleScript FAQs
>>>>>> Error number and error message
>>>>>> AppleScript error code table
>>>>>> key code table
>>>>>> Key code for key input simulation
>>>>>> Afterword
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Takaaki Naganoya
>>>>>> email@hidden
>>>>>> http://piyocast.com/as/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
>>>>>> AppleScript-Users mailing list
(email@hidden)
>>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Archives: http://lists.apple.com/archives/applescript-users
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This email sent to email@hidden
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Takaaki Naganoya
>>>> email@hidden
>>>> http://piyocast.com/as/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:
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>>>
>>> | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ...
>>> | <email@hidden> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk
>>> | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson
>>>
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>>
>>
>
> --
> Takaaki Naganoya
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> http://piyocast.com/as/ <http://piyocast.com/as/>
>
>
>
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