Re: NSAWTView: please vote
Re: NSAWTView: please vote
- Subject: Re: NSAWTView: please vote
- From: Candide Kemmler <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:54:52 +0200
Le jeudi 2 ao{t 2001, ` 11:46, Kyle Mandli a icrit :
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I totally agree with you. It would be very nice for any java developer
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to be able to use their existing code. At about Christmas time of last
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year I had the ambition to use my java app in OSX. Unfortunately it
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did not work well at all so I tried to use cocoa but that meant I had
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to rewrite a lot of the already existing gui and drawing code which
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even now that it is in objective-C it still does not go as fast
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although I am working on it. It would have been great if AWT was
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available so that I could use things like the imaging code that I had
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already spent a good amount of time optimizing for java.
I had a very similar experience, and I think it's very sad that despite
Swing being totally available to Macintosh developers, they can't really
take advantage of it on their favorite platform. Macintosh developers on
the other hand have all these Objective-C environment and frameworks
that are very nice at their disposal. But they can't benefit of both.
They have to choose. I don't understand why Apple did that.
The Microsoft case was something else: they did not want to support the
Java platform any further than JDK 1.1.x, which is bad for the
persaviseness of Java software. *But they offered direct access to their
proprietary APIs from Java. It was really wrong. Apple doesn't make the
same mistake anyway, and as long as they're implementing the latest Java
Platform, why wouldn't they support java for native application
developement beyond just raw language support ?
Again, Java is interesting mostly as a platform. Great languages exist
that don't offer a platform, yet could maybe be considered superior to
java as a language (OCAML for example).
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Maybe the answer to this is not to ask apple but for someone to write
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one ourselves.
I'm a bit stunned... Why not ask Apple ? Why do you think do they
support Java to the point of putting it to an equal foot with cocoa,
carbon and classic ?
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This would be quite a task but I think it would be definitely worth the
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trouble.
I think this is where it really hurts. I personally haven't got any idea
of how to do such a thing. Have you. I would be delighted to get a clue.
Of course, I'm volunteering.
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Thanks for speaking up
you're welcome :-)
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Kyle