Re: Newbie SQL question...
Re: Newbie SQL question...
- Subject: Re: Newbie SQL question...
- From: "John C. Randolph" <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 14:29:16 -0800
On Saturday, December 15, 2001, at 02:01 PM, Chris Hanson wrote:
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At 1:56 PM -0800 12/13/01, John C. Randolph wrote:
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> Have a look for "GNUWebStep" at www.gnustep.org. It includes a
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> re-implementation of the Enterprise Objects Framework, roughly
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> equivalent to EOF 1.0.
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How different from the latest EOF is EOF 1.0 or the GNUStep DB
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framework?
The latest EOF is Java-only. That's pretty different :-(
Seriously though, I'll let people who've done more with EOF
answer that part of your post.
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I'm starting to think I've been completely spoiled by
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WebObjects. I find myself wanting to be able to specify
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connections in Interface Builder using key-value coding.
Well, Key-value coding has been moved from EOF into Foundation.
Editing contexts have not, unfortunately.
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And I really, *really* want EOF for Objective-C.
Why, Chris! You're starting to sound like one of us old NeXT
curmudgeons! Please, file it as a feature request. The more
they get, the more likely it will be.
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I don't want it for database connectivity, though -- I just
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want it for managing an object graph, and doing data modeling
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for my application. My application isn't extremely complex,
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but if I could use EOModeler and EOF to do this I could cut
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about a month off my development schedule and ship that much
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sooner.
Yup. You and many others, I'm sure.
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What I'd really like to see is the Cocoa group pick up
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Objective-C EOF and ship it the runtime as part of Mac OS X.
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I'd be willing to pay a couple hundred bucks for the SDK, even,
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so long as I could write end-user applications without having
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to license EOF to ship with them.
Now, this is something I've been hoping for for several years:
some demand from outside the NeXT community for EOF that isn't
coupled to WOF. I remember very clearly a time when EOF was the
pitch for why customers should use NeXTSTEP for their
"Mission-Critical Custom Apps" , and WOF was just gravy.
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I don't need all sorts of database adaptors - for my needs in a
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consumer product, flat-file would be fine.[1] I don't even
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need the EOF human interface framework -- all I need is the
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"enterprise objects" part.
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Cocoa will already let me get this application done in a
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fraction the time of any other framework. It could be even
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better with a great data modeling layer.
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(Has anyone built something like EOF on Foundation yet? I
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think a couple people have mentioned wanting to do something
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like that.)
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-- Chris
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[1] I do want to create an enterprise version of my
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application, for which a JDBC adaptor (using the Java bridge)
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would be useful. But I don't need all sorts of native adaptors
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for Oracle, Informix, etc. -- JDBC over the bridge should be OK.
Make that ODBC, and I'm with you.
-jcr
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