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Re: Newbie SQL question...
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Re: Newbie SQL question...


  • Subject: Re: Newbie SQL question...
  • From: Lally Singh <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 08:58:01 -0500

You could pick up WebObjects 4.5, which is Obj-C based.
On Friday, December 14, 2001, at 04:00 PM, Todd Blanchard wrote:

If I have to work in Java, I might as well use TopLink.
It comes with most J2EE servers and it does what EOF does.
Its also got Oracle, IBM, and BEA supporting it.
It sure would be nice to be able to easily develop vertical database
apps using cocoa.
Yep. Sure would be nice.
Where's that VB manual again?

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bumgarner [mailto:email@hidden]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:39 PM
To: Andreas Monitzer
Cc: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Newbie SQL question...


On Friday, December 14, 2001, at 03:14 PM, Andreas Monitzer wrote:
And is $499 per developer *and* customer...
And while you're using Java, you could take a look at JDBC instead.
It's
free and supports everything EOF does (not that elegant though).

Sure, both a Moped and a Ferrari support going forward when you hit the
accelerator... but which would you rather drive and which will get you
to
your destination faster? Certainly, if you are just going down the
street to pick up a paper, a moped will do, but I know which one I'd
choose for a cross country drive....

Seriously; EO sits on top of JDBC. The two solve very different
problems;
JDBC gives raw access to data in a database and returns, effectively,

results sets with little formal Object<->Reltional mapping beyond the
primitive data types. EO provides a fully abstracted
Object<->Relational
mapping solution along with advanced transaction management and caching
(i.
e. a solution to the many pitfalls of traditional result set based
development).

I believe the prices is $699, not $499. In any case, you don't have to

have a license per every single customer just to use EO -- see Apple's
web
site for licensing information (it is confusing but the bottom line is
that there is a redistribution license that lets you distribute the EO
runtime to your customers).


JDBC does not work via the bridge, there seems to be a bug somewhere.
I
wanted to file a bug report for about a year now, but I never took the

time to do it...
(well, once I tried and the bugreporter was down)

I had heard that that was the case... as I do all of my development with

EO under Cocoa using Cocoa/Java, I haven't had a problem.

If you have details or an example, I would be interested in following up

and filing a bugreport...

b.bum
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H. Lally Singh
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