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Re: Let's hope XP doesn't keep this "one-up" on OS X! [OT]
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Re: Let's hope XP doesn't keep this "one-up" on OS X! [OT]


  • Subject: Re: Let's hope XP doesn't keep this "one-up" on OS X! [OT]
  • From: Scott <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 03:57:05 -0700

Ryan,

Thanks for the advice! I run off the root account now, but I've had
problems with it reverting to no user accounts, etc. and I have to reset the
whole thing up again. It's just a huge pain in the behind for someone who
is the only user of this machine. It's absurd to be forced to setup users
in my case.

I completely agree that this would be a great feature and it's totally worth
pursuing -- I just think the feature Gods of OSX keep forgetting about the
"little" guy. I'd rather see something that wasn't so integral to the OS
(yeah, I know it's Unix).

>From a UI perspective, it seems like there was a huge rush to go to OSX/Unix
without thinking the whole thing through. I've talked with several people
at Apple about the UI and their response is always the company line: "it's a
baby OS, give it time to mature" which translates into "we really wanted to
get this product to market regardless of its usability."

I also don't like the idea of my computer knowing who I am or what I'm
doing. It gives me the heebie-jeebies (man, that actually came through the
spell checker!). Maybe I'm just in denial about how much time I spend with
it. ;)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not completely down on OSX, I think it's quite
interesting and full of adventure -- it has room to grow. For me, I'm using
it and developing for it, but I'll wait 12-24 months before I put it into
production.

Perhaps the most interesting thing is 500 years from now, none of this'll
matter. Alas, I digress...


Scott

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On 7/5/01 12:34 PM, "Ryan Dary" <email@hidden> wrote:

> Scott,
>
> For you, just create one account at the Admin level and set the
> automatic login. Then use that one account ALL the time for you and all
> your friends and family. You will not be bombarded with any multi-user
> stuff if you do that. You will however have to find multi-user/profile
> software for your email needs (or any other per-user settings
> applications) unless you intend to have one inbox for everyone.
>
> What is it about the multi-user system that you dislike? Obviously for
> a single user it can be unnecessary, however for most
> families/offices/schools where more than one person is likely to be
> using the same computer it is an ideal solution.
>
> Besides any concerns you have against using a multi-user environment,
> this feature is still very desired. It just wouldn't affect those who
> don't use it.
>
> - Ryan
>
>
> On Thursday, July 5, 2001, at 09:56 AM, email@hidden wrote:
>
>> Let's bring it back the other way for a sec.
>>
>> Personally, I very much dislike the multi-user crap in OSX
>> altogether. I
>> think as with any good user interface, there should be a way to turn it
>> off.
>> (i.e. no references to root anywhere.) I constantly live in fear that
>> my
>> OSX partition is going to be "fixed" by Norton again and I'll lose all
>> my
>> "user settings", auto login, etc. and I'll be stuck without knowing the
>> root
>> password again. Unix...
>>
>> I can do the whole scenario below under OS9 right now without having to
>> switch user accounts, etc.
>>
>> But, I can see the value of the feature for people concerned about
>> multi-user setups, but what about the little guy ;)
>>
>>
>> Scott


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