Jeff Lamarche: Public Enemy #1
Jeff Lamarche: Public Enemy #1
- Subject: Jeff Lamarche: Public Enemy #1
- From: David Trevas <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:02:18 -0500
On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 11:50 AM, email@hidden
wrote:
This is one of the more inane posts I've seen on this list - and that's
saying something.
This is the kind of garbage that turns most people off to programming!
Jeff could have easily disagreed respectfully without this gratuitous
display of his superiority. He detailed response proves that he does
not even know what "inane" means. He may have found my arguments to be
wrong, ill-conceived or impossible to realize, but obviously he found
enough substance to disagree with that the word "inane" cannot apply.
This pedantic, condescending attitude is all to often seen on lists like
this. The self-proclaimed experts aren't satisfied with showing off
what they know, they sometimes have to stick in some extra digs to
really put their victims in their place. The blatant insecurity
displayed by these pedants is embarrassing. I am sure that cruel
remarks appear since this is an electronic forum and there is virtually
no accountability for one's behavior. Jeff would doubtlessly have begun
his remarks after the "inane" slur if we were in the same room.
The attitude of the experts here should be one of encouragement and
edification of the lesser minds. Rather, I am seeing a concerted effort
to drive away potential competitors. This is certainly flawed thinking
since Cocoa and Objective-C represent such a tiny part of the
programming spectrum that new programmers are necessary to allow Cocoa
to survive and even to flourish. Pedants who drive away newbies are
actually cutting their own throats and looking like jackasses doing it,
instead of enhancing their worth and looking like heroes.
As far as the rest of Jeff's post is concerned, I'd like to let him know
that the paradigms of learning in every field from reading to math to
languages have historically undergone dramatic changes. Pioneers of new
methods are routinely pilloried by the establishment. Computer science
is not immune to such change.
Let us all make an effort to remain civil, disagree respectfully and
help each other generously. Otherwise, this may become an exclusive
club of elite developers of a dead environment.
Dave