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Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps Re: proof of cocoa
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Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps Re: proof of cocoa


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps Re: proof of cocoa
  • From: Deirdre Saoirse Moen <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:42:06 -0700

Quoting Scott Anguish:
I don't particularly appreciate being marginallized. But, I also realize that trying to discuss this at this point is a dead end. Why Bill seems to be so willing to defend Apple's lying is beyond me.

It's beyond me too. Fine, he's happy with Java. Other people aren't happy. I've seen third parties dropping support for products. That's NOT a good thing.

Apple made a distinct, clear, repeated, public, commitment to EOF/Obj-C on OS X... that has turned out to be untrue.

Incidentally.. I'm IN the higher-education market. Apple is not making inroads "here". Not in the least. Our department was 100% Apple when I came on board.. it is now less than 50%, and dropping.

All I have to say is that, in 9 weeks of job hunting, I got NOT ONE job interview that was for solely Mac programming; the offer I received had a Mac programming component, but is > 90% Linux. I've had to leave Mac programming to live. If Apple realizes that people like me, who have a long history in Mac development, are important, they might survive.

What Apple has done here is lie.. plain and simple.

MANY projects are being hit by this, but most people recognize that being vocal about it is futile. Apple simply doesn't care. I wish that wasn't the case.

But, then again 400 of us where told at WWDC that we "cared too much".

I have never, in my entire career, been as angry as I was when I heard that statement at the Stepwise BoF. The flipping arrogance of it, especially coming from a product manager. And if it was my company, I would have fired him.

The reality is that Apple doesn't care enough.
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