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Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps Re: proof of cocoa
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Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps Re: proof of cocoa


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps Re: proof of cocoa
  • From: Bill Bumgarner <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:29:29 -0400

On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 02:52 PM, John C. Randolph wrote:


On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 07:51 AM, Bill Bumgarner wrote:

Unfortunately, maintaining the ObjC/EOF APIs does not have an ROI that can justify the resources necessary to do so-- not insignificant resources.

What's the ROI on being a reliable vendor that can be trusted to keep promises?

Can you name a single vendor in the marketplace that hasn't broken a few promises to developers due to market realities?

I certainly can't.

Apple has had to make some very difficult decisions over the last few years. A number of technologies got the bullet that were otherwise excellent technologies, but didn't fit into Apple's business plan.

Look at all of the promises Apple *has* made that were *much* bigger that they [eventually] came through on; a new OS (finally, had some false starts there), profitability, a migration path (Carbon), profitiability, legacy compatibility (Classic-- imperfect, but it works), profitability, and numerous others.

As Eric Buck and others have pointed out, there is a significant amount of revenue out there (tens of millions) that Apple has pissed away by reneging on ObjC/EOF and other promises.

Tens of millions? Doubtful. How do you figure?

Even if Apple *could* have generated tens of millions in revenue on EOF/ObjC, you are talking about a company that reports profits per quarter in, what, near the 100 million mark? So, let's just be ultra optimistic and say Apple could have generated $40,000,000 -- $10m / quarter -- in *revenue* on EOF/ObjC this year.

How much of that is profit? Again, being ultra optimistic, let's say that it is $2.5m/quarter in profit. Basically, a rounding error on the profit declared by the company as a whole.

So, why would Apple invest significant engineering resources-- because that is what it would take-- to maintain a product that can still be seriously undermined by third party vendors [the database vendors]?

.... And to do that when there is an alternative [Java/EO/JDBC/Java Client/D2JC/Cocoa] that a very large part of the development community will be happier with AND will better support the ongoing business model and goals of the company?

.... And to do that when it would take critical engineering resources away from contributing to the refinement of the products [OS X, hardware, and related technologies] that are actually driving Apple's profitability?

b.bum


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