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Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps Re: proof of cocoa
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Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps Re: proof of cocoa


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa/EOF for non-enterprise apps Re: proof of cocoa
  • From: Georg Tuparev <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:21:45 +0200

bbum,

Is it really so difficult for you to understand that there is life behind Oracle & Sybase? We all know your technical knowledge, but your inability to understand the world of horizontal desktop oriented markets is really pathetic!

Just an example of one of our projects (put on hold because Apple's decision to kill EOF/ObjC) - a CBT Editor/Player. I would like to sell it with cheap embedded database (FrontBase is an obvious choice for us). And I'm not going to switch to Java, because it is just too expensive for me - it reduces the productivity of my developers, we have to throw away sources written and maintained for years, and go to the market later and sell our product for more money in order to cover the reduced productivity of the team. These are all reasons that matter a lot - all of them can lead to a success or failure of a product.

I'm with you if you are talking about consultancy web-centric projects where buzzwords matter more then efficiency - the client will pay anyway (or file for chapter 11), but please try to understand that this is vertical market, and a shrinking one.

Just my $0.02

gt

p.s. This should really move to 'talk', but oh well, I'm giving bad example myself...

On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 12:10 AM, Bill Bumgarner wrote:

Example: Because of the JDBC specification and the rabid Java market [rabid because you'd have to be insane to buy into some of the crap some folks are selling within the market], Sybase and Oracle are both compelled to create and release fully compliant JDBC drivers that closely follow the latest releases of their data servers. The same holds true for just about every other database vendor in the industry-- they make real sales as a result of having JDBC drivers and, as such, have a real motivation to implement said drivers.

Georg Tuparev
Tuparev Technologies
Klipper 13
1186 VR Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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