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Re: Serious Questions


  • Subject: Re: Serious Questions
  • From: Andreas Monitzer <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 22:57:16 +0200

On Saturday, May 26, 2001, at 09:57 , email@hidden wrote:

I do not understand how a person is supposed to get started with Cocoa when there is little, and very often NO documentation for even the simplest things.

Take a look at http://www.cocoadevcentral.com

I just dragged over a pop-up button to try and figure out how that might work--not actually connecting it to anything, but just to see if I could get it working on an interface level--but after thirty minutes of looking everywhere I could think of I'm still at a complete loss. The inspector window went away and I could not figure out how to get it back.

Cmd-Shift-I

Searching Interface Builder's "Help" found ZERO hits for "inspector"!

There IS actually an online help in IB? Didn't know that.

Now that's scary. The only thing I got to work was changing the names of the three choices offered. But how do I reduce that to only 2 choices? Or increase it to 4 or 5 items?

Press Opt and resize it.

Every time I turn around someone is touting Cocoa as an easy thing to learn. For whom, I wonder?

For those that do the Apple's tutorials before clicking around in IB.

If I'm the problem then it must be that I don't have sufficient background because I just had a full battery of cognitive tests and I'm still a pretty smart guy. Damn smart, in fact. So is a couple of courses 25 years ago in Fortran and a little TeX macro writing in the meantime way too little to start from? Do I need to sell my shack here in the Northern woods and move someplace where there are a few Gurus I can hang out with and maybe pick something up that way? Buy a few rounds? Do I need a goat, or will a chicken be sufficient sacrifice? If I go to the dark side will I find the same problem there?

To be honest, I think you're missing UI usage experience. For example, the Inspector is easily accessible from the menu.

Or is Apple giving the developer's tools disk to everyone who buys a retail copy of OS X just a PR stunt? If I hang in there will this dismal situation improve? Are the documentation floodgates soon to be opened?

There's some documentation (http://developer.apple.com/macosx http://www.cocoadevcentral.com http://www.stepwise.com), but most of the information is hidden in omnigroup's mailing list archive.

andy
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Discussion forthcoming.


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