Re: ever felt like a complete BONZO??
Re: ever felt like a complete BONZO??
- Subject: Re: ever felt like a complete BONZO??
- From: Alex Rice <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:41:13 -0600
On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 06:25 PM, Christian Kraemer wrote:
Okay so I got the Mac OSX and I got bitten by the bug - wanting to
learn to programm ... what ever that would be just want to learn
something new ... so I got the books and I got the web-sites to learn
and the right computer and the desire .... and now that I am
subsciribing to this list I feel like I need a COCOA FOR (REAL) DUMMIES
Book ... David Pogue should write that ...
So anyway can you guys promise me that I will feel ANY better some
day??? I mean all of you had to start somewhere, right? ... dang I am
just not patient... :)
I will watch this list and as soon as I understand the first post here
I will let you all know ...
Bonzo? I knew a guy who went by "Bonzo Amin Midi". Cool name.
Learning to program is at times extremely frustrating and other time
just as gratifying. The longer you stick with it (measured in years) the
less frequently you will get that frustrated feeling!
cocoa-dev is interesting because it has a good mix of a few beginning
developers and many long-time hackers from both NextStep land and MacOS
land.
re learning Cocoa: Cocoa is an extremely rich application framework, and
all the books on it will assume you already know C. Since Cocoa itself
encompasses several-hundred classes and protocols, it's probably too
much for a book to teach C and Cocoa all under the same cover.
If you just want to have fun, perhaps start with an object-oriented
scripting language like Python (www.python.org) or Ruby (www.ruby-
lang.org). Both of those languages have bindings to Cocoa, so you could
have the joy of Cocoa without the learning curve of C. Or you could play
with Applescript Studio which was released recently and you can download
from Apple.
If you are serious about doing serious pedal-to-the-metal Cocoa then
learn C and then revisit the Cocoa documentation and get the O'Reilly
Cocoa book and definitely get the Aaron Hillegass Cocoa book.
For learning C there are probably thousands of books published but a
good bet is anything authored by Brian W. Kernighan, such as _The Unix
Programming Environment_ or _The C Programming Language_.
I'm no C expert myself, but it seems that most programmers learn C one
way or another. And Cocoa is a very very good reason to learn C.
Regards,
Alex Rice <email@hidden>
Mindlube Software
http://www.mindlube.com/
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