Re: Hello, a book recommendation request, and a question
Re: Hello, a book recommendation request, and a question
- Subject: Re: Hello, a book recommendation request, and a question
- From: Stephen Magyari <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:09:14 -0700
OO, a book review! What a welcome change of pace! :)
Speaking as a hobbyist / someone with limited programming experience,
Learning Cocoa (LC) was a great introduction & helped me grasp the initial
feel for Cocoa and got me up & running with building my own application.
Cocoa Programming (CP) for Mac OS X goes beyond LC & delves into useful
topics that LC doesn't touch (or touch as well).
--LC presented a clear(er) picture of the Model-View-Controller paradigm
(whereas CP didn't even touch the subject, IIRC)
--LC seemed to "flow" better chapter-to-chapter, but CP presented exercises
in more digestible chunks.
--CP was easier to read in terms of font family & size used for page text
(useful if you're like me and your eyes get tired pretty quick...)
--Both books have "challenges" where you are left to figure out how to
implement something, but CP draws your attention to the challenges as
specific "sections" vs. LC's approach of having them listed as 2 bullets
thrown in the mix near the end of a chapter
--Both have example code available online
--Both have shortcomings such as not explaining some topics that, based on
reading this list, would have been beneficial just because they seem to be
common questions -- outline views and tab views being 2 prime examples
If you're new to Cocoa and have the cash, I'd start out with Learning Cocoa
for starters, then move on to Cocoa Programming. I found both of them were
worth the money & reading time. But if you can only afford 1, go for Cocoa
Programming. (Be sure to check the publisher's website regardless for
errata & hints/sample code if you get stuck...)
--Stephen
on 4/16/02 4:38 PM, Stephen Winson at email@hidden wrote:
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Greetings,
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I'm very new to Cocoa development...like today new, having just
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completed the Currency Conversion Tutorial that came with Apple's dev
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tools.. =)
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I've been wanting to get back into programming for awhile now, and
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wanting to do what I can to support and get more people using OS X, so
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I've decided that Cocoa is the way I want to go, and now's the time to
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do it.
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So, in order to avoid berating you with very stupid questions, and
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getting alot of RTFMs I'd like to get some opinions on what's are
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actually good and useful books for me to get. I'm looking at two books,
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currently, and was wondering if I should go with either, both, or some
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other book I haven't come across as yet. Specifically O'Reilly's
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"Learning Cocoa" and Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X (by Aaron
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Hillegas). They get alot of nice words said about them on Amazon, but I
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figured I'd get a second opinion here as well. Would getting both of
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them be pointless, and if so, which would be the better reference in the
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long run?
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And the other question, is there any place where there are some
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guidelines for secure coding in Cocoa? Would normal C guidelines be
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appropriate, or are there special things I need to be on the lookout for?
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Thanks in advance,
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Sincerely,
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Stephen Winson
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The Frontline Group
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email@hidden
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