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Re: Frameworks refernce online...


  • Subject: Re: Frameworks refernce online...
  • From: James Duncan Davidson <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:11:32 -0700

On Tuesday, Aug 20, 2002, at 15:48 US/Pacific, Jonathan Jackel wrote:

Andy Lee's AppKiDo is also a terrific way to use the documentation. Much
better than Cocoa Browser, in my opinion.

http://homepage.mac.com/aglee/downloads

Before all else, I'm really glad there's multiple people working on this from different approaches. It's all way more usable than using a web browser. I hope that this can be considered to be constructive criticism that will help the developers of both pieces of software.

At first glance, it looks better because there's more UI, but at this time, I don't like it as much. The reasons why:

1) The top class browser puts everything into a class inheritance hierarchy. So to use the browser, I have to know where a class is in the hierarchy. Cocoa Browser displays everything together, so it's easy to find. Yes, AppKiDo has the drawer which has the alpha lists of classes--but all that means is that I've not got a browser which I don't want to use and more screen real estate taken up by all the UI at the top of the drawer. Bottom line--the non class hierarchy list is better and only needs to show up once.

2) The Find button on the drawer looks inviting, but only works with a complete class name. If I want to see all classes with "Control" in it because I'm not sure which control to use, it doesn't work.

3) No Function or Types reference. They've said it's coming, but. Until it's there, I can't use it much at all as that's where I spent a lot of time looking for documentation.

4) No Java reference. Objective-C only.

5) Ugly Icon. Cocoa Browser has a much nicer icon that uses transparency.

6) No way reference on Protocols, Classes only right now. Lots of functionality is buried in those Protocols. (By the way, while making sure that there wasn't protocol docs, I clicked on NSString in the AppKit list and got the Foundation NSString docs...)

To be sure, there's a few things I wish were different in Cocoa Browser:

1) The Function and Type items should be in the first column of the browser, not the second. As it is they are buried unnaturally and I always have to remember to click on "Foundation" or "App Kit" first.

2) I'd really like to be able to search some how. A search box in the toolbar ala the new finder model would be really cool.

3) Having four parts to the browser is a little crowded. AppKiDo might have discovered something by using the list of classes down the side and having a two part browser right above the documentation HTML display area. Don't know... A little more work on this is needed.

And for either, there's more functionality that I want..

1) CoreFoundation reference

2) Carbon reference

3) BSD

4) Core Graphics

...

Anyways, just my thoughts... :)
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