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Re: Subject: Re: Cocoa Book / ok, ok.
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  • Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Cocoa Book / ok, ok.
  • From: Chuck Toporek <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:59:24 -0500

On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 01:21 PM, Brian E. Howard wrote:


On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 12:35 PM, Chuck Toporek wrote:

When an author is working in Word, XML, or DocBook SGML to produce their book, those files get converted to Frame when when the book comes into production. "Conversion" is part voodoo, in that things can happen, like double hyphens being converted to em-dashes, and missing slashes from HTML/XML tags in code examples (e.g., <barf\>) suddenly disappear. After a book gets converted, we typically have a few days to review the conversion and find problems. We have to be really careful to look for and catch these things, but they can sometimes slip through.

It's worth noting that Word does a lot of nasty things to text as it's entered, one of which is auto-converting double hyphens to em-dashes and messing around with single and curly quotes, as well as doing some odd things with backticks. To get around this, you need to turn off all the automatic stuff by doing the following:

1. Go to Format --> AutoFormat
2. Click on the Options button
3. AutoCorrect tab
--> uncheck "Replace text as you type"
4. AutoFormat As You Type tab
--> uncheck everything in the "Replace as you type" section
5. AutoText tab
--> uncheck "Show AutoComplete tip for AutoText, Contacts, and dates"
6. AutoFormat tab
--> uncheck everything in the "Replace" section

Then you should be safe for working on a tech book or documentation, because Word (foolishly) assumes we're all typing business letters.

The real problem, as I said in my last post, is that you "Publishers" are _NOT_ typesetting your books! You are farting around with crap like M$ Word, and page layout programs that are designed to produce pamphlets, not books. Real typesetting means TeX in todays world; all else is forth rate at best, as there is no second or third rate! I own several of your books, and the typography in every one of them is horrible.

The additional problem there is that most printers today don't like TeX or troff, or even PostScript. Publishers tend to be bound by a format their printers can accept and print from, and also by what their staff can work with.

In regard to typography, as the editor, I have no control over the choice of fonts in our books, but I can pass your comments along. (I don't even have a choice or say on the cover animal.) That's all handled by production and design.

On a positive note, the second edition of "Learning Cocoa--With Objective-C" is a big improvement over the original embarrassment. kudos to you and the author for that.

Thanks, that (the kudos part) means a lot coming from you.

Chuck
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