Re: file example
Re: file example
- Subject: Re: file example
- From: email@hidden
- Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:32:13 -0800
I suppose this was a kind sort of rtfm response. I have read every
line of the programming topics dealing with this area and have tried
various combinations derived from the refs. Nothing works. A code
snippet would have been a lot more helpful to me and lurkers and would
have taken much less bandwidth than this response. Thanks anyway. I
was rightfully chastized earlier from posting non-framework related
questions. But, my on-topic questions have been met with similar
disdain. I suppose this is not the list for cocoa development help.
I suppose I should have said in my post that I had read the programming
topics completely. These topics are just not covered very well in the
docs on a high level for people new to oop. When to subclass and when
to extend and which methods need subclassing are just new topics with
many of us. I have read through Cheeseman's recipe articles, have read
Learning Cocoa and have read Programming with Cocoa. Unfortunately,
none of those have answered the questions I ask or did so in a way that
I didn't understand. I have come a long way with the help of this
list, but still need help occasionally with what might seem like stupid
questions.
I went back and re-read Sam's response, and I must say I think you're
being *rather* hard on him. All he did was direct you to what he
thought would be a helpful section of the documentation. He wasn't mean
or rude about it, he didn't chastise you (incorrectly, as it would have
turned out) for not having looked at the doc, nothing like that.
Given the frequency of questions on these lists which are trivially
answered by a quick look in the doc, I think this is a perfectly
reasonable response to a question. If you've already read all the doc
and it didn't help, you probably ought to indicate that in your post.
Learning to use the doc seems to be the biggest factor in learning to
program in Cocoa. In most cases, when I answer someone's question on
this list, I do it by simply looking up the answer in the doc. That is
not to say that all novices need to do is read the doc and stop asking
questions -- far from it. But it does mean that in my opinion, the best
help I can give to someone is often to direct them to the relevant
portion of the doc.
I think this falls into the "give a man a fish and he eats for a day,
teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime" philosophy. When I
answer questions on this list, I often don't know the answer ahead of
time, any more than the person who posted the question did. I just know
where to look, and that's usually all it takes. So that's the knowledge
that it seems essential to me to try to impart.
If the doc wasn't helpful to you in this particular case, then that's
unfortunate, but hardly Sam's fault. I hope a response since then has
been more helpful to you.
Ben Haller
Stick Software
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