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Re: The ULTIMATE Cocoa Development Language
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Re: The ULTIMATE Cocoa Development Language


  • Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE Cocoa Development Language
  • From: Rick <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:37:54 -0600

On Thursday, January 3, 2002, at 05:19 PM, Steve Schacht wrote:

IMHO, the ultimate Cocoa programming language/environment doesn't exist yet.
Why? Because Cocoa deserves - no, it's SCREAMING for - a truly VISUAL
programming language. I'm not talking about just visual interface design;
I'm talking about visual _programming_. I'm talking about a language like,
well... Has anyone ever used Prograph (formerly known as Prograph CPX) by
Pictorius (formerly known as Prograph International which started out as TGS
Systems)?

Yep..I once owned both Prograph (v 2.5 I think) and then upgraded to CPX. My problem with it mainly was that they never jumped on the bandwagon quick enough to get the latest APIs integrated. Apple had just released QuickTime 1.5 which is where I had quite an interest in. Just couldn't tap into that API via Prograph.

Anyhow, while the visual nature of it was "cool", I think the current system (i.e. Cocoa dev environment) is a fantastic foundation. We have a UI designer as well as a code generator. That is a very decent start.

I think what would make this more powerful, useful, etc. is to layer other features and/or extend existing ones. e.g. I'd love to see the "collapseable code" feature where one can collapse/expand blocks of code. Very useful for code inspections and learning what a complex block of code does by first inspecting things at a higher level.

Rather than perhaps drawing Cocoa code visually, perhaps simply a tool that could translate the code into diagrams? I'd like to potentially see more of these types of tools. I'm not too keen on code generators that supposedly translate your design docs...I guess I'm thinking more of "reverse-engineering" types of tools.

One item I'm very happy with is Apple's HeaderDoc tool which now supports Obj-C. It's nice to have a system that can document your code in an automated fashion.

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Ricky A. Sharp Instant Interactive(tm)
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 >The ULTIMATE Cocoa Development Language (From: Steve Schacht <email@hidden>)

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